I have been reading a lot of forum posts recently regarding Bubblews, with mixed comments about the site. Can anyone please elaborate on whether one should try it or if its a scam. Also please elaborate on how the payment system works there.
I've been on there a while and it is very good. That said, it is strict! So read the rules in you Bank page and also search for Bubblewssupport users ... read their posts. Copyright material, affiliate links etc will get your account deleted. But, follow the rules and they pay well. If you want to read it, I wrote a review about the good and bad points of Bubblews.
Hope to see you there too ...
Bubblews is cool. I've made money off there. Not a scam.
I've made money on Bubblews, too, but it took me five months to get it, which isn't cool at all. Some people never get their money, which is even less cool!
It only took me a month. But I write everyday.
I don't think you understand--it took Bubblews five months to pay my three claimed redemptions. I wouldn't recommend it to my worst enemy!
I got paid for four times and fifth is unpaid since three months!
It's CEO is very eager to answer interviews and SPREAD THE WORLD the glory of website but has no time to reply to mail on unpaid redemptions.
They raised the payment threshold from $25 to $50 so they can cheat for longer time and larger amount. Out of 10 redemptions you may get paid 2-3 time just to encourage you to add more posts and keep your expectations alive.
I have found no problems with "the Bubble". I have met nice people, and really enjoy the opportunity to post short thoughts. There is a 400 character minimum and 10 post daily limit. There is no limit to how many comments, likes, dislikes or views you complete daily.
The financial benefit is immediately and can be calculated easily. On the Bubble, you are paid for every comment, every post, every like or dislike, every connection and every view.... YAY!
So, you could post 10 bubbles a day, and then make any combination of the other things up to the point of making as much money as your keystrokes will all. [meaning you can set a goal and reach it ... as long as your fingers hold out.] It is definitely worth a try.... but, don't drop the Hub!!!
I don't know how they do it, but it would be nice to see some of their "ways" adopted by the Hub.
The quality of the articles is nothing like the Hub, but the quick pay makes up for that....
I am there also and so far, so good. I have gotten paid and never had a problem. Join us! Just follow the rules. 400 characters, no spaces, minimum, No bots, no plagiarism etc..
I enjoy writing for Bubblews. It is a fun site and I have never had a problem with payments. The 'pay out' used to be $25 and now is $50, which a lot of people have complained about, but, it does not upset me at all. It is easy to reach the pay out if you really work at it, 10 posts of short 400 characters in a 24 hour period does not take long at all. My only problem is I do not get over there as often as I should.
Me neither. I tried to get my son to sign up and earn his way to buying & saving up for a new computer that he wants. I've found that my time is more taken up with HP, elance and mturk lately. I haven't even been on Facebook to play Candy Crush in ages! Whooda-thunk-it?
It has the worst administration. They pay some religiously while others even if they did not break rules don't get paid consistently without being given due explanation.Based on my 1 year experience there it is really a very bad site. It did not pay a lot of very good and law abiding writers. Now if you want to try and have the luck to be among those who got paid consistently then good for you. At first I was so happy with this site but when they started to pay me on and off I realized this site is the worst site ever.
As most people have said, if you follow the rules you do usually get paid. I was looking at one members profile and from the number of views/like etc. I estimate they have made over $5000 in one year, I would like to know how many Hubbers make that.
I believe there would be quite a few, and probably with a lot less work than is required on Bubblews because of the passive income available on HP.
I have only a small collection of Hubs now, and have written only one or two Hubs in the last six months, but I'm still cashing out easily every month for doing virtually nothing.
Oh! HubPages is sure very large-hearted to allow writers to discuss other sites. I mean I am really surprised.
Please no sarcasm meant.
I've been writing for Bubblews for the past one year. I understand that it's not a scam. I received more than 12 redemption pay-outs. There may some problems in communications which are also taken care at present.
Read this hub: http://thomasswan.hubpages.com/hub/Bubb … t-12508313 and this hub: http://buildreps.hubpages.com/hub/Bubbl … lly-a-scam
My own experience of Bubblews:
Having joined Bubblews at the end of July, 2013, I reached the redemption threshold for the first time on September 9, 2013. After this redemption didn’t come through, nor the following one on September 13, 2013, I sent a message of enquiry using the Bubblews ‘Contact Us’ form. Having received no reply, I realized I needed to email BubblewsSupport2, which I did twice, but received no reply. I then resorted to pinning messages to BubblewsSupport2’s profile wall. The only response was removal of my messages. By this time I'd claimed a third redemption, which also didn't come through. I sent another email to firstname.lastname@example.org on November 24, 2013, but received no reply. Under the advice of the HubPages' contributors Buildreps and Thomas Swan, I contacted Support@bubblews.com and (miracle of miracles) received the following response: "We do apologize for this. We will look into what happened with those redemption and be sure to clear them if it was a mistake on our end. We really do appreciate the patience." After a few days had elapsed, I sent a follow-up email, but received no reply. On 01.24.2014 I sent another email, but received no reply. On 01.27.2014 I sent emails to both Support@bubblews.com and email@example.com. On 01.28.2013, I received this reply from the latter (it seemed the former address no longer worked):
"NOTE: You don't have to email us again. We are doing our very best to review all your accounts.
Please refrain from spamming this email address as it will not get your ticket answered faster.
Thank you for contacting the Bubblews.com Member Support Redemption Department. Your support ticket has been received and your name has been added to the list for our redemption staff to review.
Please give us enough time to review your accounts.
If your account is cleared, you will see payment come through without any response from our staff."
This is what I'd call an insult to my intelligence. Apart from that, I had, under no circumstances, 'spammed' anybody at Bubblews. All I wanted was payment--redemptions dating back to 09.09.2013. Almost five months!!! How much more time was needed to review my account?
I decided that being polite wasn't working, and began sending some very rude and threatening emails.
All three redemptions have now been paid, but had I not fought, I'd still be waiting.
Incidentally, I deleted all but one of my posts on Bubblews on November 30, 2013, and took a screen shot of my Bubblews ‘bank’ after deleting, which went into minus. My account still exists, but the one remaining post explaining why I deleted all other posts was deleted by Bubblews mid-January.
If you write for Bubblews, you'll have to reach the threshold of $50.00 before you're paid, which means contributing about 70 posts. Then you might well have to spend half a year chasing up the payment and, even then, you still might not get paid. Is it worth the risk and trouble? I won't be writing for Bubblews again!
Five months is obviously enough time for them. I gave up and stopped "spamming" them. They never sent the payments, and I do not contribute there anymore.
Try again. I don't know exactly what it was that inspired Bubblews to pay me, but when I started turning nasty, I copied and pasted every email I sent and their replies to the comment section of one of Arvind's posts--it was the one where he encourages bubblers to interview him. My replies came from firstname.lastname@example.org, but I sent emails to both that address and Support@bubblews.com. Bombard them, and do it publicly.
@weekend your experience is the experience of many writers there. I also have some 7 redemptions missing. The latest is $50 which took me a lot of hardwork but sadly was not paid. II hope somebody in USA can file a lawsuit against this site.
We tried it for a couple of months last year. Our first redemption didn't come through, but even though we never got a response as to why, we acknowledged some issues with picture copyrights and fixed it. We kept on trying for the next one and actually got it. Got 2-3 more redemptions, if I'm not mistaken. The last one came right before they raised the Redemption threshold to $50. So, as far as them paying, I can testify in their favor.
As for the site itself and the overall experience, I think it's worth crap. The quality of the writings/post is pretty poor, but even if you spend a lot of time and effort in a great post, it will quickly get lost in the wave of articles; plus the interface and navigation of the site is tedious and not intuitive, which makes it nearly impossible to wade through old posts; It seems to be built with more of a social networking feel, instead of a writing/educational site, and yet it doesn't offer any tools to encourage that social experience. I mean, you can post messages in someone's profile, but the messages quickly get swallowed in a tide of incoming messages and it's a pain to navigate through.
Finally, I had several issues with their servers crashing when I was using it. I stopped using it right after my last redemption and haven't missed it. My profile is still there collecting, but I don't feel the urge to go there to contribute.
They do pay, when they feel like it, but the question is whether you want to waste your time contributing to a site that may or may not feel like acknowleding your efforts.
You are correct in that it is a social media site, not a writing site. If you spend more than a few minutes writing a post it is a waste of time since it will quickly disappear.
I have been on the site since July 31, 2013 and have consistently received my payments. I will add that I am very careful about following the rules.
Same here, I have been there since July of 2013 and have had every redemption paid. My payout has been only $900.00 during that time, but I only post one Bubble/article a week for the past several months.
As you, I also follow the rules, what very few of them that they have. My wife writes there as well and has received all of her redemptions.
I can only speak for the experience of myself and my wife.
I do know others that have been there since the site started, around two years ago, and they have had no problems, according to their correspondence with me, in getting redemption requests fulfilled.
Right now I have sitting in the bank, after my last $50.00 redemption the below: (you will notice this is from one article only, but does show some revenue from a previous article that was being viewed prior to my last redemption request, that sort of disproves some "facts" others have shared.)
For those who can not read the screenshot it reflects:
I have done some writing there but my computers get so much ad-ware from the site that my computers slow down within a short period of time so then I have to spend time running super anti-spyware to clean it up. So it is not worth my time to go there.
And this is true. I've had to regularly clean my computer after each visit. Still, it is amazing what we can do for easy money! But when the money stops, it's time to get back to the serious business of writing either on one's own platform, or a revenue-sharing site such as Hubpages.
My experience was similar to what weekend described above. Claiming my first payment was a huge hassle that involved many emails to their oh-so-helpful (NOT) "support" team before I finally got the same "yea yea yea, we're looking into it, quit bugging us" message. They did finally cough up the $$ they owed me but it took so long (nearly 90 days) that by the time I got paid I'd already decided that I wasnt going to deal with them any longer.
I cant say for sure that they're a scam, but at the very least the people running the site are utterly incompetent.
My advice: don't bother.
I've been paid there three times without any problems (at the lower $25 threshold). However it is a lot of work. It's not the writing of posts (which can be very short); it's the fact that unless you are very active building connections and viewing/liking/commenting on their posts you won't get many visitors to your posts. The residual potential of your articles is very small, although they pay quite well initially. Personally I'd stick with Hubpages and perhaps Squidoo.
I recommend it. I've been on there since April last year, no problems, paid every time and earnings increased, including some passive income. You're essentially free to write what you want, with some very basic rules against adult content and copying and other things spelled out on the bank page there; the other things you can't do are essentially cheating tactics like like exchange groups and bots. I recommend you use paypal to get paid, it's been the quickest and most efficient for me. You write posts, earn when people view, comment or like them and when you hit $50 in your bank, you hit the Redeem button on your bank page and have to put in your info (name, phone, paypal info) and hit submit. Within a few days, you'll get a notice about payment and it will be sent to paypal.
I've been there a few months and feel it's not worth the effort. I does seem you have to spend large amounts of time building connections and I've seen A LOT of Bubblers complaining about getting paid...at all...chasing it down...etc...that's already been said. If I'm going to spend all that time, I certainly don't want to have to waste a bunch more time hawking down what's mine.
I also feel there is little quality content. You can read there for an hour and maybe find half a dozen Bubbles that were worth a view.
Just me. Maybe I'm just not Bubblew material. I'll stick with HP.
Thank you everyone for the reply. As i said, a bunch of mixed opinions here, more importantly there are more negative than positive views. I would maybe give the site more time before trying it myself, as the site is relatively new i think. Thank you again everyone for enlightening me, appreciate it.
Wow weekend, won''t recommend it to your worst enemy! I feel your anger and hatred, hope you get paid your due soon.
I was getting along fine with Bubblews and had easily 3 or 4 payments from them when my Mother's condition worsened and I no longer had time to write or socialise much.
When they brought in the $50 minimum payout, I had over $25 in my bank, but left it to collect later.
It rose to something like $55 and I hit the redemption button early January, over a month ago.
A couple of weeks later I realised they had not paid me.
I've hit the 'contact us' button twice and asked why I have not been paid. I have not received a reply.
I have neither time nor energy to spam their in-box over this.
Doubt if I will be back. Life's too short!
Oh and I'm pretty sure I didn't break any rules.
Very disappointing. I quite liked it over there.
I'll add... if your goal is to make easy money, give Bubblews a shot. But if your goal is to write insightful and elaborate articles, stay on HubPages... or do both.
I just started Bubblews about a week ago. I kind of do my cute, funny stuff, some poetry. I leave the more "serious" writing here. I haven't made it to my first payout yet on Bubblews but I won't know until I try, right? Best of luck, whichever choice you make.
I have an account there but haven't logged in in a few months. I earned my first payment (when it was $25) and they paid into my Paypal within a few days -- 2 or 3 maybe? I don't recall exactly, but it was quickly.
Despite not having problems with that one payment, I just couldn't get into Bubblews. I found it tedious, and I hated so many things about how the website itself works, like the way the pages load and how the site is organized. And the way they do the alert messages so that you get an alert for every little move anyone makes -- thousands of alerts that just stack up!
At one point I was hooked on FaceBook, I have been hooked for a time on HP, there are a few forums I've been hooked on, but I just never did feel much of a pull from Bubblews.
It seemed like I was on there for hours and hours just to get $25. Other people have built up a following so that all they have to do is put up a quick post, and people will flock to it to read and like. I am not that funny, entertaining, clever or likable, so in order to get views and likes, I had to visit tons of pages just to get a few people to reciprocate. It seemed like all I did was wait for pages to load and click "like." For hours. Ugh.
I know lots people love that place but I just couldn't get into it.
The truth shall be exposed sooner or later, don't you think? It usually is. One would have to be very vigilant to track whether they are counting on continual "turnover" of writers. If they pay only 2 or 3 times and then no more, I should think writers would simply abandon the site.
The trouble is....you have these people on there, with HIGH numbers of posts, likes, comments, etc, who claim to be making payout CONTINUALLY. Some hubbers have even made quite a bit$$ on Bubblews. I KNOW these people and am sure they are being totally honest about it.
So...bottom line? Looks like each person needs to see for himself what occurs over time. I'm very slowly building to a first pay out, which is now $50, rather than $25. To be honest, I find the "notification & bubbler to bubbler communication" nerve wracking. If I don't visit for 2 or 3 days....I can have 400+ notifications......are you kidding me? LOL We each have to decide...is it worth it? Some will say yes...others No....that's how it goes for everything! Peace.
I have seen those people too, so I know it is not everyone who is not paid. In fact, I wrote a post on there about the issue, but Bubblews deleted it since it was critical of their staff.
I have been writing on and off for Bubblews since around October, and haven't had any issues with payments. I got paid about 6 times, once after they raised the minimum payment to $50.00. You have to follow the rules, or they will just delete your account without explanation, or so it seems from what I have read here on HP.
When you push the Redeem button, there is still another step, and I think that may be why people aren't getting paid. Paypal is the best way to get paid for Bubblews. But you have to confirm you pushed the Redeem button after you do, and tell them how you want to be paid. I think people aren't patient enough to wait for that step.
Is the writing good? No. What thoughts can you really express in a paragraph? Many of the people speak very poor English, or just go on about what boring things they did that day. It is possible to make passive income, I haven't been on because I've been busy, and in 2 weeks I made about $15.00. I don't find it necessary to write 70 posts to make $50.00, I have done it with 26 posts, averaging about $2.00 a post.
So if you are looking for fast money, Bubblews is good. Or if you like writing little blurbs of info about something. If you are looking for a more writerly experience, like there is on Hubpages, you will not like it. Even though I write there on occasion, I do sometimes feel conflicted because many of the people aren't even trying to write anything intelligent. But you will see many people you know from HP on there, so you sort of build an audience quite fast. Best wishes if you decide to take the plunge.
I estimated from my own experience that it took ABOUT 70 posts plus interactions to reach my first $50.00. It obviously works faster after that--if they decide to pay, that is.
And not being quite as silly as you might believe, I did wait after I'd pressed the 'redeem' button, and did confirm how I wanted to be paid etc. The issue Thomas Swan has, is that members don't receive a confirmation of redemption per email. The only evidence available is a screen shot of your 'bank' if you think to take one.
To be perfectly honest, I don't understand why members should have to request payment at all. We don't have to do it to receive payment from HubPages or Adsense. I guess it's because Bubblews doesn't intend paying everyone all the time.
I'm at Bubblews. If you try it, the key to success is making a lot of good connections. Most of your views, likes and comments will come from other members.
Be very vanilla, follow all the rules, credit your photos properly and you'll get paid.
So far I've had maybe 4-5 payments - I'd have to check. But over $200 I think.
I'm on Bubblews, and I find more and more people from HP there. I write 15-17 posts before redeeming the 50.00. I have never had any problem being paid. They are strict with their rules.
I have absolutely no complaints about the site.
Hi Mary615 - I have no idea if we're connected on Bubblews but would love to add you! I'm working on my first redemption and have a ways to go - but to be fair I've been dedicating more time here.
Can you tell me exactly what you mean by "no spaces?" Because if it's what I think it is....I have just wasted a whole lot of valuable time I'll not get paid for....which makes me crazy angry......No spaces??
I've actually deleted some of my more questionable posts - not because of spaces or characters but because of content. I had a pay it forward type of post but I took it down because I did not want that to be interpreted like I was soliciting or promoting bad behavior. It chopped my bank by a couple dollars but in the long run it might be worth it. This is the first I've heard about no spaces though.
I think what she means by "no spaces" is that they do not count towards the 400 characters.
I have been spending a lot of time there because I find I can get definite earnings there and make payout at least twice a week. Here I am lucky now to make payout once a month.
It is no good for passive income though and unless you are on the site and 'bubbling' you can't expect to make much.
As Bard points out, Bubblews is a social networking site, not a writing site. If you spend 10% of your time there writing, and 90% connecting and commenting/liking other people's posts, you'll get the maximum out of it. If you stop connecting/commenting/liking, your income will drop so it's no good for long-term income.
If you're one of those people who, if you weren't on Bubblews, would be on Facebook or Twitter or HubPages forums instead - then you might as well socialise on Bubblews where you can make money from it.
However if you're one of those people who, if you weren't on Bubblews, you'd be writing Hubs or writing ebooks or learning how to be a freelance writer, then I don't recommend it. Bubblews is a great thief of time - if you're a member there, you're probably spending a lot more time there than you realize. Even Bubblers who claim to be successful have admitted their hourly rate works out at $1 or $2 per hour.
For those who desperately need money right now, I guess that's acceptable - but for those who are trying to build a writing career, that's a very low rate to settle for, and can easily be beaten elsewhere in the long run.
It is good for $50 every 5 days making $10 per day writing the 10 post max. This money does add up. If you write your bubbles the night before then post them the next day you are saving time. You can write here as well but the earning here are not as fast. However, the experience is nice.
I think the "10 posts a day" concept was spread by Bubblews staff, to get as much content as possible streaming through the site every day. If you think about it logically, it's not the most efficient way to earn income on the site. When I was trialling Bubblews, I was making $5 per day writing only one or two articles a day.
Why? Because your main source of income is likes and comments on your articles, not views. You get most comments and likes when your articles are new and showing on your profile page. Write 10 posts, and five of them are instantly relegated to the archives. Also, think about the behaviour of connections - if they have a lot of notifications, they don't have time to like or comment on all 10 of your posts. Whereas if you have only one or two, they're more likely to manage it - especially if you give them a nudge by commenting on their new posts. Result - you have about the same number of comments and likes that day as if you'd written ten articles, but you've written only one or two. Great time-saver!
I got this advice from several more experienced Bubblers and to me, it makes sense. Here's a couple of relevant articles:
http://www.bubblews.com/news/561372-bub … -per-month
http://www.bubblews.com/news/2334155-be … your-posts
Having said all that, $5 for 2 articles is still rubbish money, especially when you count in the time spent commenting and liking (which you must do if you want your articles to earn).
It's a click bait, don't sit and wait, add as many people as you can kind of site. People come to my page, connect to me and leave a comment without liking or reading any of my stuff. They then write something silly like "xoxox I liked your bubbles. Come like mine xoxox connected, or "Hi, nice to meet you, please connect back so we can be friends".
I used to connect back but never heard from any of them again. The only people who talk to me are from hubpages.
I really liked Bubblews and could have made more of it if I had the time. It's great for people like Bard who need to make money fast. I would have been over the moon to discover it if I was still in Spain and struggling to make a living online.
But it's big downside is that payments are not guaranteed. I lost a $50 payment and the management refuse to respond to my emails. I would have been crying if I had still been dependent on that money.
As it is, I can afford to write it off. But I don't forget.
And I broke no rules.
You should write a Hub about that. Bet it would get lots of traffic!
Somebody already did! It's had a zillion comments, both pro and con, because each person has his own view about what happens with payments and why. It is very easy to break a rule, and when you do, it's goodbye payment for that section. I have never broken a rule, have been on the site for about six months and have received every single payment...but I have slowed down there because I was getting burned out.
How stupid are you? The hub you read and commented on--as I did, too--proves that non-payment in most cases has absolutely nothing to do with breaking rules! Didn't you understand what you were reading?
Like others who commented on that hub, and the author himself, I also got paid, but after a five month battle--see my comment above. They wouldn't have paid me at all had I broken the rules. And they wouldn't have paid me had I not fought for payment, either.
Think of your writing as cream. If you write something new EVERY day, it will rise to the top. It will be read by other ppl who's work you have to read (good or bad) in order for them to return the favor.
If you do not post something new, your work will sink to the bottom of a black hole, never to be seen again. No one is going to spend their precious time (and who could blame them?) pursuing the work of someone who is not currently active. Remember; 'active' means writing something new and reading/commenting on a ton of other ppl's stuff every day.
If the fact that *no one cares about your work, if you don't mind spending a *lot of time going through repetitive/meaningless motions and dedicating time to reading a *ton of mostly uninteresting hubs (save a precious few ppl you actually care about), who's main criteria is that it contains 400 characters, then then maybe you will like it.
At $8, with $42 to go before payout, I couldn't stick with it.
I had wondered where you went...
I stay away from the site for days at a time myself. I can only take so much of it...
It was nice seeing a few friends in a different venue, but it's so gobbed down with total strangers, I didn't feel like I was able to take part in any relationships there. Which is funny 'cause don't they try to spin it as another social network?
Yes they do, and it is far more of a social networking site than a writing site. As you've observed, the way to make money is to go and comment and like other people's Bubbles, so they will comment and like yours. The quality of the writing is irrelevant, as most people just skim enough of the text to be able to leave some kind of comment.
You're quite right - the way to success is to write something new every day, but just ONE thing, then go off and like and comment madly so your article will get lots of likes and comments. Next day, rinse and repeat. It's just mutual masturbation, really (ducks and waits for the moderator to arrive...)
I did like the fact that I met some old Hubbers there, and it was interesting to see those people posting more personal or opinion pieces, so in some ways I got to know them better. What annoyed me was the difficulty of carrying on a conversation in the comments, because it was impossible to keep track of where your comments were.
Ditto......I've been slowly working toward a first pmt for months now...I simply can't "get into" Bubblews. When you're not there every single day...and writing a post at LEAST one per day....it's easy to get lost in the big black hole, as Beth states. I will say, when I go on to my site and see that I have over 500 "notifications"...that's enough to discourage me immediately. There's a "game" you have to play at Bibblews, in order to start racking up bubblers and points. I'm not willing to play.
I simply cannot spend my life parked in front of a keyboard. Ridiculous. I'm a Hubpages girl......period.
I just signed up to Bubblews to take a look around. I've been on there for around 10 minutes, made one 'bubble' and have $1.08 in the bank at the time of writing this with no more effort than it took me to write a 200 word or so political piece about the current situation in Northern Ireland. It may well turn out to be a social networking site that can make me money, but I hope I can maintain my integrity as a writer in the process...
Of course you can maintain your integrity as a writer, just not as a human being. You service others and wait to be serviced in return... well, I spose that makes it pretty much what Marisa said.
Do you know that gambling game? The one where you put a quarter in and a wand sweeps a huge tray of coins and it looks like there's no way it wont sweep the coins out of the machine and into your greedy palm? That's what those dollar payouts are. It looks pretty hopeful at first, but as you start losing your soul, you'll realize 2 months... (or 6 months if you have *any semblance of a life) is not worth the $50 payout. No one is reading your stuff, no one cares about it, it's never gonna be googled as far as I can imagine... it's just sitting in a closet gathering cobwebs.
If you really want $50, go to McDonalds, spend a day in training, work 8 hours and collect your pay check for that one day. It makes a lot more sense.
I don't see what the big deal is. Bubblews is what it is....A social writing platform. There is quality work on there if you make the right connections. True, interaction is key to having any success, but it's not the ONLY ingredient. Someone could have really good stuff and lay low and still get lots of views.
Regarding those worried about it being a scam (which it's not,) what's the harm in trying it? They're not asking for your money. It won't take long to reach the minimum payout and find out for yourself. Follow the rules and you will be paid. There are a lot of people on Bubblews who try to scam the system with plagiarized content or posts that otherwise break the rules, not the other way around.
Following the rules does not guarantee payment.
Well, the system isn't perfect and I'm sure there are some problems....But I think that a majority of the time, if you follow the rules you can expect payment. This has been my experience as well as many others I have interacted with.
I have yet to see someone with a complaint of non-payment who didn't have something questionable going on. Just my experience though.
But the bottom line is, it doesn't take much effort for a person to try and see for themselves, and the only thing to lose is some time. But it's a risk that I think is well worth taking.
Read this hub: http://thomasswan.hubpages.com/hub/Bubb … t-12508313
You'll find ALOT of people commenting on that hub 'with a complaint of non-payment who didn't have something questionable going on', and I am one of them!!!
I'm not going to go by user comments and take their word for it. Some people don't even read the rules or understand them.
These hubs are just as valid as what I am saying - they are a negative experience while I had a positive one. There are very few facts that I trust from hubs written about Bubblews. Usually they are just one-sided rants.
Then why are you bothering to say anything at all?
Actually, what I really object to is people like you trying to mislead people for whatever reason. Fact is, following the rules does not guarantee payment!
Why am I bothering? Maybe to present a more balanced perspective?
Funny, you say I am trying to mislead people, like I have some vested interest in getting people to sign up for Bubblews. I don't care whether people think it's a scam and write it off, it's their loss.
But there are plenty of positive experiences that should be heard.
And far too many negative experiences. And far too many Bubblews shills.
"Bubblews shills" - well, okay. You can be insulting if you choose to.
What I wonder is, why haven't you moved on from complaining about Bubblews? Are you trying to "save" people from signing up?
People should be aware of what they are signing up for.
So, why are you so keen to encourage people to join? Why are you telling people that if they follow the rules they will be paid?
By the way, people don't generally complain about things that are working well for them.
I encourage people to try it because it has worked well for myself as well as many others I have interacted with. Its an easy way to make a little side cash.
I'm telling people that if they follow the rules they will be paid, because they will. Nothing in my experience or from what I have seen indicates otherwise.
And by the way, a lot of people are full of crap. People complain about everything. A lot of people cheat and get upset when it doesn't work out for them.
Something tells me you're full of crap. A complete waste of time.
I agree, SoundNFury. I have had no issues, either, getting paid. I think some of the people who aren't are doing things like not properly attributing photos or perhaps posting links--things like that. People do need to hear that there are positive experiences at Bubblews.
I agree Victoria Lynn.
But as soon as you present a positive perspective, you are branded as a "shill" and it's like you are conspiring to get people to sign up for a "scam."
Bubblews stops paying at a whim, and it has nothing to do with not following the rules.
Personal experience and the experience of others I know.
Did anyone tell you what rules were broken? I've heard that people don't usually get an answer as to what they did wrong. They should improve on that and let people know what they did.
I did get paid after five months of campaigning, and my account still exists, although I've taken down all content. I think that's enough to indicate that I didn't break any rules. They just decided not to pay me and hoped I'd go away, but I didn't.
I've explained exactly what happened on page one of this thread.
I had a similar experience. 2 claims not paid, complained + series of emails then one was paid. Tried again => 3 claims made, one paid after many emails - Apology provided 'Sorry, it will not happen again' BUT it did! No further payments after that despite emails.
The fact that many people get paid after complaining and sending emails proves that no rules were broken. They simply choose not to pay some people! There are many examples of this.
Yes, there are some people who are very happy on Bubblews and some people who had a bad experience. You're saying that if you had a bad experience, you must be a crook. That is not true. I do know people who have missed out on payments and we haven't been able to work out why.
If I know two or three cases out of my small acquaintance on Bubblews (not including any of the people who've posted here), then I'm sure there must be more. It's unfair and insulting to try to pretend otherwise, just because you happen to enjoy the site.
The balanced perspective isn't saying everything's perfect. The balanced view is saying, Yes, it is a handy way to make some side income if it happens to suit you. Yes, there is a risk that you may not get paid some of your redemptions. Them's the facts.
I am pretty sure I said the system isn't perfect. I never stated that everyone who doesn't get paid is a crook. The problem I see is in those people who have a bad experience painting it as a "scam" for everyone and automatically attacking anyone who defends Bubblews.
As far as using user comments to gauge peoples' experiences, I had commented on a hub about Bubblews, expressing my positive experience on the site, and my comment was deleted. People are only interested in ranting about it.
People do tend to rant if they're not being paid. It seems you run into a lot of them. Interesting.
Anyway, you said, "Follow the rules and you will be paid." That's not true. Following the rules is no guarantee of payment, and it's wrong to lead people to believe that it is.
I see a lot of them on Hubpages, yes.
Well, to sum it up, I would recommend Bubblews to friends and associates. I think the site is reliable enough.
I wouldn't 'recommend' it to anyone. Of course, I wouldn't try to stop anybody joining Bubblews, but I would tell them the risk--that Bubblews doesn't pay everybody all the time, and that following the rules is no guarantee of payment.
Considering how many people I personally know who have had payment difficulties with Bubblews, I'd say the risk is very high indeed.
You did say, "I have yet to see someone with a complaint of non-payment who didn't have something questionable going on."
And that doesn't mean they are necessarily a "crook." There might be improperly attributed images, etc. Many other ways to have a payment issue, which don't point to the entire site being a scam.
But in most cases Bubblews simply doesn't pay everybody all the time, and following the rules is no guarantee of payment. I know you don't like it, but that's the way it is.
In "most" cases? Not sure about that. At any rate, this argument is going nowhere. Some have good experiences; some have bad. It's not a scam, but sometimes people don't get paid. Can't we just leave it at that and agree to disagree? ;-)
This hub is very interesting: http://thomasswan.hubpages.com/hub/Bubb … t-The-Scam
Most, if not all, of the people who complain of non-payment in the comment section of the above hub do eventually get paid, including me. That means none of our payments were held back because we broke the rules. Bubblews had simply decided not to pay us and hoped we'd go away. I can only assume this is representative of 'most cases'.
Any reason I shouldn't assume as I do?
That's the way it is from your perspective. There are many, many others who are doing perfectly fine on Bubblews.
I've always been paid at bubblews--7 or 8 times, I think--when payout was $25. It was always timely. I'm slower getting to $50. Like Marisa said, a lot of time has to spent liking and commenting. If people have the time, they can make the money, and I had hoped more passive income would come from it, but it adds up slowly if you're not on the site a lot. I also get a payout every month at HubPages whether I write anything or not, so I know that the time I spend at HubPages will continue to pay off. I post some at Bubblews but then might not for days or weeks.
Interesting. Where have you seen this 'one consistent issue [...] among people on HP who complain that they haven't received payment on Bubblews ...'? I certainly didn't use stolen photos, and if ever I did use photos, they were taken by me with my camera, and I attributed them as such.
But I didn't break any rules, anyway, or I wouldn't have been paid in the end ... after five months of campaigning. I wouldn't have received an apology from Bubblews, either.
No, I think the real 'one consistent issue' is that Bubblews just decides not to pay some people for no reason whatsoever. Or to save money, maybe. Who knows?
The use of images in hubs that writers don't have permission to use. Using photos without permission or not attributing creative commons license or public domain.
And you think they behave in the same way on Bubblews? No idea.
I can only say that I had enormous difficulty getting paid by Bubblews, and wouldn't have been paid at all had I not put up a fight. The non-payment obviously had nothing to do with breaking the rules, and that's my point at the end of the day--anyone joining Bubblews should be aware that Bubblews does not pay everybody all of the time, and following the rules does not guarantee payment.
What would be your advise for Bubblews writers who haven't broken the rules but are struggling to get payment due to them? Are the specific things you should say in your contact with them or some other steps you should be taking?
Do exactly as I describe on page one of this thread, and duplicate all correspondence in the comment section of one of Arvind's Bubblews posts. I used the one where he invites Bubblews members to conduct interviews with him and his staff. Share your experience in the hubs I link to in my comment on page one of this thread, and do the same on as many blog articles and forums etc. about Bubblews you can find on the Internet, including Hubpages. That's what I did, and it worked. By the way, don't be overly polite to the Bubblews staff, and don't beg! Be firm. Tell them what you want and what you'll do if you don't get it.
I did not use any images at all. I only got paid about half my claims after emailing many, many times. I did not break any rules. The fact that they pay sometimes after emailing them many many times, proves no rules were broken. They simply choose not to pay willy nilly.
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