List of Sites Scraping Content

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   Judi Beeposted 11 years ago

   I've had 38 of my hubs  scraped by the same outfit operating over different sites.  I know that there are various threads now, but here's a list of the site names.  They are scraping topic categories, as far as I can see.  The sites are made up entirely of hubs, so please check for your content.
   
   FinanceForPeoples
   Familywithparenting
   FoodforCooking
   EverythingAtHomes
   GenderRelationships   
   Games-Toys-Hobbies
   BusinessEmployment
   EntertainmentwithMedia - a couple of mine here
   EducationforScience - lots of my history hubs here!
   CelebrationforHoliday - Christmas, Halloween and Easter
   Pets-and-Animals (can't actually find this site)
   artswithdesign
   religion-philosophy
   travelingandplaces - a lot of my hubs here too

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      Barbara Kayposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I searched for Food for Cooking and came up with some info about this guy. This site was created on 3-04-13. He's already had two domain name changes in less than a year for this site. He has also had 2 IP address changes in a year.
      
      . It looks like he changes names when he runs into problems like this.

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         Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Don't email him!  Another hubber has reported doing that and had her email hacked.

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            Barbara Kayposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            How awful. I'll edit it and take the email off.  I guess he'll try anything.

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      TheKatsMeowposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      "arts with design" are you sure it isn't "arts AND Design" I found a website with the latter name that seems to have copied hubpage articles.

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         Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         The domain name is www. artswithdesign . com, but the site is titled Arts and Design.

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      paiva25posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I'm new to hub pages so doubt any of my hubs are stolen cause I hardly got anything...
      But a solution that I've got is that what if hubpages were to disable text selection...that way no one would be able to select and copy your text...
      This can be done using simple css embedded in the html source code of hubpages...

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         SimeyCposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         This has been proposed several times - but doesn't really stop copying. It may deter the casual stealer, but the professional can get around this easily....

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            paiva25posted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Yea I know...the only other solution would be to convert the hubs into images, which ain't feasible..

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         Marcy Goodfleischposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         I agree - something should be done on a site-wide basis.  I also think HP is within its rights to file a B to B complaint with Google.  This lowers Google's marketability (since they are ranked by advertisers according to the value and integrity of their search results), and it affects the entire site here.
         
         We cannot afford to deal with this every few weeks - which is what we are doing now.  It is far more efficient to have a large-scale way to handle it than to have hundreds of individual writers here filing thousands of individual complaints, over and over.  This is not to say that we should stop filing DMCAs, it just means we need a broader attack & defend strategy.
         
         I'd better go sit in a Zen Garden with some herbal tea - I think the issues in Korea are affecting my choice of phrases here!

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         Queenlushlipsposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Do you have instructions fur hub CSS embed? To prevent page selection?

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      Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Btw I found the pet site, it's pets-and-animal .com (I added an extra s by mistake above)  Lots of hubs, of course, including some of mine.

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         TheKatsMeowposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         oh great! I just went there now...  I can add another stolen hub to my list thanks to this site!

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            savingkathyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Me too...sigh.

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               TheKatsMeowposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               I am going to file complaints with the server crazydomains .com. au as well as with google!

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      sholland10posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I went through all of them and found 17 of my hubs!!  GRRR!!  I put my hub name in search and they just popped up under the categories!  I c/p'ed each page with all my hubs into a Word Doc for easy access for filing a DMCA or several... I haven't gotten that far. 
      
      So frustrating!!  Thanks for the list, Judi Bee!

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      StephanieBCrosbyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks for keeping us abreast of these sites. It is a shame that this keeps happening.

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      Rock_njposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      There must be a way to make hubs harder to copy.  I've been to sites that disable the copy function within a browser.  That would help, but takes programming on HP's end.

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         brianrockposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Won't help.
         
         Sites like this don't involve any kind of copying and pasting. They use automated software to access a website (i.e. your hub), download the content (the same way your web browser does), and then strip it down to the text. The fancy Javascript that prevents a regular user from right clicking in their browser is completely ignored.
         
         Considering the size of the sites, they're probably a completely automated "auto-blog" that's set it and forget it. He enters in a few source websites / RSS feeds and then moves on to another project while the software continuously scrapes and publishes.
         
         All it would end up doing is damaging the user experience for legitimate users.

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            Mark Johannposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Good information my friend but do you know how to deal with this problem? Does HP knows this? Maybe they have software program against this program.

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      DeborahNeyensposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks for posting this, Judi. I've found 10 of mine so far.

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      Cardisaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Thanks Judi, Now I am going to have to waste my day tracking down my hubs and filing DMCAs when I should be earning money...Sheesh!

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         Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         This has consumed the best part of the last 48 hours for me.

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            darkprinceofjazzposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I had this happen to me once I began to have success on Squidoo, I began hunting and filing DMCA complaints so much that I lost a week before I knew what hit me.
            
            I really had to force my self away from looking so much,  I now just do my part when a post like this pops up. It really is spitting against the wind isn't it?
            
            I really was shocked at how pervasive this problem is, it does seem never ending.

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       Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Sorry - missed one:  Fashionandbeautiful .com

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          TheKatsMeowposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          aw crap, 3 of mine are on there! Poopoo

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       rebeccamealeyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Does someone have the exact web address for the one about the holidays? I could only find the artsbydesign and foodforcooking.
       Thanks!

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          Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          www.  Celebrationforholiday.  com  = Christmas etc
          
          www.  travelingandplaces. com = holiday destinations

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             theraggededgeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

             Don't forget the health one... is it healthforpeoples ?

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                Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                Damn!  Missed that one - hello scraped hub no. 52!
                
                Thanks Bev!

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       sholland10posted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Holy Crap!  I am doing my DMCA's and each time I go back there are more scraped.  He must be on the move right now.  Originally, I c/p'ed my hub name search onto a Word Doc for easy access to the SOB's sites with our hubs.  I am glad I did because it makes it easier to open tabs and stay on the same page.  Although, however he has it set up, the page jumps around and it take patience to get the links to open.  I have one that I can't get opened.  Good Luck everyone!

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       PhlebotomyAdviserposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Just caught Business Employment ripping off my content. What is the point of them doing this. I'm just glad I am not the  only one. I'm not even sure what a DMCA is but I am willing to file it if it helps not index the stolen content.

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   Haseebmmkposted 11 years ago

   Thieves.

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   SimeyCposted 11 years ago

   DCMA complaint filed on Google for one of these sites!

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   Zelkiiroposted 11 years ago

   EntertainmentwithMedia stole my reviews.
   
   They must not be allowed to live.

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      spartucusjonesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      That site stole at least 10 of my hubs. We need to shut the bastards down!

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   Judi Beeposted 11 years ago

   Just found more of mine - over 40 hubs copied now.  That's over a third of my subdomain - no wonder my traffic is down.

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      theraggededgeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      It must be an automated process. All my tarot ones were scraped on the same date 25th Jan. They probably just point their bl**dy software at HP and let her rip.
      
      There are tons of hubs there and it must be affecting traffic to the whole HP site.
      
      @HP staff - there must be something you can do about this -- it's your livelihood too!
      
      I'll restart my search tomorrow.

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         joanveronicaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         The ones I've founbd were also scraped on that same date, 25th Jan. It must be automated!

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   cfinposted 11 years ago

   Great here is one of mine copied
   
   http://www.travelingandplaces.com/what- … ommentform

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      theraggededgeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Better start searching and filing DMCAs then
      
      http://support.google.com/bin/static.py … page=ts.cs

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         loksmiposted 11 years agoin reply to this

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            Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            There are plenty written already.

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            Glenn Stokposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            The complete details for finding stolen hubs and filing a DMCA is in the learning center... http://hubpages.com/learningcenter/how- … -complaint

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      Thelma Albertsposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      One of my travel hubs is copied  too, by travelandplaces. Just seen that the site is now suspended. I wonder for how long. I have to continue checking.

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   cfinposted 11 years ago

   So, Im not sure what option to pick on the google form

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      Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      "Web search", then "I have a legal issue not mentioned above", then "I have found content that may violate my copyright", then "Yes, I am the copyright holder", then "yes", then "text".

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         SmartAndFunposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks for this. I've never had to file before today. I probably could have figured it out, but I'm already flustered because of the copied articles, so this made it easy.
         
         I found seven of my articles on the first site I checked. Off to check the others.
         
         Edit: just found 26 more of mine on the next site I checked!    

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            Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Glad it helped ...  But sorry you've needed to use it.

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         AliciaCposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Thanks for the instructions, Judi. It looks like I'll be using them a lot this weekend.

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   Sheri Fayeposted 11 years ago

   I am fairly new to Hubpages but this pisses me off! I know I spend days and days researching and writing my hubs and to have them just stolen....anyway I have an idea, although I am not at all techy. Maybe someone could write a hub on this or start a petition and we could get as many hubbers as possible to sign it and send it to google, hubstaff, or the owners of the rip off sites? Maybe if we tackle this thing as a community? Just a thought.

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      wowtgpposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Good idea. I am also new here and seeing so many people complain about their content being stolen is starting to concern me a little. We must do something about it sooner rather than later.

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   savingkathyposted 11 years ago

   Thanks for posting list list, Judi.
   
   I found a few of my hubs on their travel site after you posted a link the other day.
   I just checked one of the other sites in your list, and found 10 more of my hubs there    I had a feeling that a couple of them had been stolen, as they had been getting good google traffic until recently, but I hadn't turned up anything in my searches. Off to file some more DMCA notices and look for more copied hubs on the other sites... What a pain!!!!!

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      Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      No worries Kathy - glad it helped you find your hubs.  I'm experiencing exactly the same situation as you - hubs that were getting traffic are now sliding.  No wonder - I've just filed another batch of DMCAs which brings me up to 48 today and I've a feeling there may be more.

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         savingkathyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         48? That's horrible. I hope this gets resolved quickly for all of our sakes.

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            Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            Yes - 48!  Nearly half of all my hubs.  I've searched most of his sites and found them by copying a sentence from the hub into the search bar.  It's odd that he missed some - he has most of my history hubs, for example, but a few are not there.  In other niches he has all of them though.  Oh, and I found one from my other subdomain too.

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               savingkathyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               Ack!  I just found 5 more of mine on one of his sites. I've been able to find most of them by searching for my name and HubPages name. I'm finding the same thing with my niches- he's stolen most of my food / cooking hubs but seems to have missed a few. (Or maybe I just haven't found them yet).

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    PurvisBobbi44posted 11 years ago

    This make me ill. There should be security software HubPages could use so no one can copy or scrape our hardwork.
    
    I am not a tech-geek or I would help us.

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    Jenn-Anneposted 11 years ago

    Wow - even all the "join hubpages" links are copied, making it blatantly obvious that the material was taken. Seems to me when large portions of hubpages have been copied there ought to be something admin can do. The website I looked at didn't have any material that WASN'T copied from hubpages.

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    cfinposted 11 years ago

    I reported mine to Google. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

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    TheKatsMeowposted 11 years ago

    For copied hubs, I feel that the best thing to do is file a DCMA complaint. Doesn't that mean that if they are making money with google adsense, they can lose their accounts because they were duplicating content? Seems only fair.

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    FatFreddysCatposted 11 years ago

    Probably not, but you can always sign that e-mail address up for tons of online gay porn.
    
    Not that *I* would ever do such a thing, of course, I'm just throwin' the idea out there. (cough cough)

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       Sheri Fayeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       ha ha..do it!!!

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       rebeccamealeyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       I remember seeing at least one site "brought down." I think as long as we all stick together justice will prevail. I hope so, anyway.

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    paradigmsearchposted 11 years ago

    This is just a rant.
    
    I published an article on Yahoo Voices.
    
    It was stolen the next day.
    
    I posted the website that stole it.
    
    Next thing I knew I was viciously attacked in the forums by someone with the initials A.M. and my account was banned.
    
    Something rotten in Denmark over there... Avoid them like the plague. Besides, they pay less than a third of what HP pays anyway.

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    The Quiz Masterposted 11 years ago

    Yep, they've stolen my hubs too.
    
    One of them is here.
    http://www.games-toys-hobbies.com/how-t … z-fun.html
    
    I am going to file a DCMA complaint with Google.
    I suggest everyone else does the same.

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    TheKatsMeowposted 11 years ago

    I just checked, none of mine are copied. Otherwise I would file a complaint. I emailed a few hubbers when I found that their work has been stolen, I hope they file complaints. Let's hope these sites get shut down and the thieves lose their adsense accounts!!

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    FatFreddysCatposted 11 years ago

    I didn't have time to give the most likely sites for my stuff more than a quick glance, but it appears that I dodged the bullet this time. I know how much it sucks though, cuz a couple of weeks ago I had half a dozen Hubs get sniped by some wanna-be who built up an entire "music news" blog using stolen material. Release the hounds!!

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       quicksandposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Starve them first!

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       spartucusjonesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       FatFreddysCat, I typed your name in the site Entertainmentwithmedia after I typed my name and found that ten of my Hubs appeared. It looks like ten of your Hubs were copied by this site as well. It looks like the fun begins again.

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          FatFreddysCatposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          Awww crap. Really? (SIGH) Here we go again....
          
          Dammit I don't have time for this s**t tonight!!!

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    theraggededgeposted 11 years ago

    Tip: search those sites with the name you use on HP. I found lots of mine (not all though) that way.

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       Just Ask Susanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Found one so far by using my name. Thanks.

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          Just Ask Susanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          The count has now hit 31 on his Food for cooking site. grrrrrr %&%^$^%$%^$

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             Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

             He's got one of your Christmas hubs - Gifts for the man or woman in your life.  On the www. celebrationforholiday. com site.  Bet he's got more, that's just the one I saw.

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                Just Ask Susanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                Sigh! Thanks Judith.

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          Thelma Albertsposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          I found one website using my online name stating, "@copyrights 2011-2012 All Rights Reserved by Thelma Alberts After Massage Care..." My name was added to the title of the article. What shall I do about it?

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    limorepoposted 11 years ago

    I am new to this community. I wanna know what precaution hubber can take so that his content is not stolen.

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       Just Ask Susanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Sorry to say this limorepo but there's not much you can do to keep people from stealing online content.

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       Zelkiiroposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Namedrop yourself every chance you get, place links to your own related hubs all throughout ("As I mentioned in this hub..." or "I mentioned in this hub..."), and that'll be definitive proof that the stolen content is, indeed, stolen.

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       theraggededgeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       If we knew that, we'd be doing it!
       
       Welcome, anyway.

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    EricDockettposted 11 years ago

    I just filed a bunch of removals with Google but its going to take forever to get everything.  This dirtball is stealing links and all, so if you're using textual links to interlink your Hubs you now have a bunch of garbage links pointed back at your subdomain.  Nice.
    
    I've recently decided that I curse too much, and I've been trying to dial it back, but this is guy is making it tough today.

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    TheKatsMeowposted 11 years ago

    K, I justt found some of my stuff has been copied too, I am filing a complaint!

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       TheKatsMeowposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       so far I have found 5 of my articles. What really bothers me is that they were posted in January!

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    jacharlessposted 11 years ago

    As a programmer, what is being asked is virtually impossible.
    The three main languages used to design websites and optimize content on websites, like HP, include solutions for scraping. Scraping is nearly identical to what Goo, Bing, Yahoo, Facebook Open Graph, etc do to display a rich snippet. Apart from a few minor differences, there is really no way to stop scraping.
    
    However, it is not entirely impossible. The well known Panda and Penguin solutions were designed and implemented to stop content farmers who temporarily -or long-term- scrape and display portions of pages on multiple sites, eating up page positions in SERP and black-hat links, usually with ads attached to them. But humans are smarter than algorithms.
    
    The solution which exists, but is not widely accepted/recommended, because it would literally drop thousands upon thousands of pages from the system, since the traditional meta-tag system has been depreciated, is PDF, which blocks "reading" of the content itself. With it, also blocks several other enhancements.
    
    If this fellow is a pro scraper, he will undoubtedly switch domains every 60-90 days to avoid the spider crawl and is possibly using a Twitter like API to pull content.
    
    Interim, it is best to authenticate content in-page, and report black-hat and scraping domains to the search engines.
    
    James.

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    RealHousewifeposted 11 years ago

    Great...it's a hassle to search for your own stolen content and then have to file the complaints.  I do not understand why google search engines can't detect these and disable the one that was posted - obviously second?  I'm sure there's a reason but I sure cant figure it out.

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    theraggededgeposted 11 years ago

    Have just found some of Simone's hubs on the food site and posted the link in the other thread. HP MUST do something about this or we may as well just give up.
    
    Good grief, there must be some other way to earn a little extra by writing decent content?

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       Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       I really don't think that they will do anything. 
       
       I've spent most of the day chasing this - that might be a reasonable investment of my time if I had an income stream worth protecting - but I've just remembered that I don't!

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          TheKatsMeowposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          i know how you feel, I just spent the last few hours looking for articles, and I didn't get any of my work done, oops!
          BTW Thanks for bringing this to everyone's attention. If I hadn't opened this forum thread today I would have never known about this at all!

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             Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

             Would prefer to be spreading good news!

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    jacharlessposted 11 years ago

    Yeats & Keating!
    All the domains are registered to one person, in China.
    Most of the hosting looks like Korean servers.
    And they are mostly WordPress builds.
    If you want, report his/her ca-pub number to Google, it will definitely stop them, since all these sites are pointing to that AdSense Account. If you want the number, I can show you how to view it.
    
    
    James
    
    4.10 Edit:
    You can also report the PAGES and DOMAIN (both) to Goo, using this link
    
    4.48 Edit: 
    Writers must realize HP is not truly responsible for the protection of content, generally speaking. When sites get "too big" worms (spammers, scrapers, etc) pop up all over, like dandelions on a lawn, because they can go undetected by the bigger fish. Generally speaking, they are right. 90% of top tier sites do not have a spam watchdog team, hence rely on the search engine to do the "dirty" work. And search engines monitor nearly 250 million domains @ 10-1 million pages per domain. Quite a conundrum. To that end, explains why that winery created Camus Conundrum (delicious by the way). lol.

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       Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       I reported each page of mine - do I need to report the domains separately as well?

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          jacharlessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          you've got mail.

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             Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

             Thanks

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             Just Ask Susanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

             James, Could you let me know as well? Please

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                jacharlessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                Done and done

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                   Just Ask Susanposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                   Thanks so much!

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    Judi Beeposted 11 years ago

    I saw the info through Whois, but don't know how to see his Adsense info.

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       sholland10posted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Hasn't "Whois" been a problem in the past?  I am not tech savvy but if he is doing this over and over again, I would think his IP Address would be red flagged.  I found more on healthforpeoples.com/.  It appears to be the same dates and plain style as the others.

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    savingkathyposted 11 years ago

    Well, I've found 25 of my copied hubs so far... Calling it a day. This is too depressing.

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       Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       I know, I know...

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          wildernessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          Judi, please keep us posted as to any effect your work is having.  Looks like lots of folks, including me, will be filing; if G isn't going to do anything we need to find a different avenue.  Adsense, maybe.  Something...

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             TheKatsMeowposted 11 years agoin reply to this

             am I wrong to assume that since adsense and google are the same thing... by complaining to them, they will lose their adsense account? to me that seems fair, I would be happy if that happened.

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                theraggededgeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                For sure they will. But they have probably have had a lot of $s for the three months the sites have been active.
                
                I am wondering why I haven't found the copied articles earlier than this. JudiBee and I found them independently of each other but roughly at the same time. I regularly check random hubs and these were mostly copied on 25th January, so I should have found them before now. Is it something to do with indexing or something?

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                   TheKatsMeowposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                   this surprises me as well, I check often for copied hubs every few months and didn't find the copied work on my own. Only once I heard about the site, and searched for my username did I find out. If it hadn't been for this forum, I wouldn't have known about it at all!

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                   Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                   I'm wondering the same thing.  I noticed traffic falling but couldn't find copies until now.  Even now, some aren't showing up in Google search, but they're on his sites.

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                      TheKatsMeowposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                      the way I look for copied content is i take an excerpt of text, copy it, and then put it into quotations in the google search box to see what pops up. If more than your hub article link show up, you have a problem.
                      This usually works for me.... It gets tough to do that with every article when you have more than a few. Even harder if you have to keep track of 1oo + articles!

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                         Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                         That's just what I do but I'm curious as to why they aren't showing up, even today, in Google results when they are on his sites.  I guess there's a lag in indexing the copies?

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                            TheKatsMeowposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                            I really want to know how this got past so many people for so long! It's driving me mad. I think I am going to step away from my laptop before I break it in frustration. What an awful day!

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                         theraggededgeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                         Yep, that's what we do... that's why I'm flummoxed as to why I only found them now.
                         
                         Interestingly, not one of my hubs published in 2013 has been snaffled. I have noticed that he is still 'republishing' as of today's date on a couple of his sites. Conclusion: he is targeting specific sub-domains on different days?
                         
                         I also checked for lenses but nothing there. I think he's done Squidoo already.

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                            TheKatsMeowposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                            the hubs that this person stole from me, are all over the place: some are fairly recent and some are older. I think you are right about targeting specific sub domains on different days. It looks like a lot of stuff from each website were taken on the same day...

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                            Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                            All of mine in some categories are copied, but in others there are odd omissions - I still think I may find them.

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                jezebellaminaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                We can certainly speed up the process by reporting them directly to Adsense. I did just that right after I filed my DMCA complaints with Google, letting them know I had just made the report in case they needed to cross-reference.
                You'd think that they would go hand in hand but I think since Google is so huge it's best to just do both, in case they don't happen to check!

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                   TheKatsMeowposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                   how do you report them to adsense?

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             Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

             Will do.  He got some of yours too?  Not too surprising, this is copying on a grand scale, but I'm sorry anyway.

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                wildernessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                Sigh---yes, I've found a dozen or so - about half of what I've checked. 
                
                Searching a site, from the home page, for my name is picking them up - nearly all my photos are my own and carry my name as owner.  Those are listed, even though the pic isn't there.
                
                Or a google search for http://www.foodforcooking.com/?s=wilderness does the same thing in the thief's domain of foodforcooking.  From raggededge in another thread.

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                   Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                   I'll try that tomorrow, I'm pretty much done for the day.

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                      wildernessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                      Bet you are, way over there across the pond.  Hey - you're closer than I am - maybe you can go give him a swift kick in the behind?
                      
                      Go to bed, Judi - hit it again tomorrow.  I know I will be - the dozen or so I filed so far aren't a drop in the bucket.

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    pinto2011posted 11 years ago

    Very depressing for writers.

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    Barbara Kayposted 11 years ago

    There is another site copying content www.docstoc I've reported it to Google and got no where. You might want to check if he has any of yours.

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       sholland10posted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Thanks, Barbara.  This site looks professional.  They have stolen 4 of my hubs, changed some words in the title, and changed some of the words in the text.  They removed my copyright mark that I put at the top and bottom of each hub.  It seems they are not English speaking because of the way they replace the words.  They have taken more "pains" to disguise, rather than simply c/p'ing.

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          sholland10posted 11 years agoin reply to this

          Looks like the Learning Center is there... http:// www.docstoc. com/ search/hubpages?catid=0

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       Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       I've filed a complaint with Docstoc before - from memory, there's a "copyright" issues link at the bottom of their page - I filled in their form and they removed my hub.  One of their contributors was copying a lot of hubs at that time.  It's not so much the site as some dodgy contributors (I think).

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    FatFreddysCatposted 11 years ago

    Just filed DMCA's for 21 of my Hubs ... I hope these bastards bite the curb and soon!!!

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    justateacherposted 11 years ago

    I have found much of my stuff stolen, as well....darn it!! Gonna go search some more...some people...

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    Judi Beeposted 11 years ago

    I've just found two more hubs, so my total is up to 50 on this account.
    
    I see from his home/gardening (everythingathomes .com) site that there are 1,450 + pages of hubs on the site.  More hubs are starting to appear on the sites with today's date.  Please keep looking (searching your name helps, but it hasn't caught all of mine - I had to search sentences from the hub) and filing DMCAs.

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    Millionaire Tipsposted 11 years ago

    Thank you for this list.  I have found five of my articles so far and have filed notices on four of them.  I'll have to keep looking.

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       Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       You're welcome - sorry you found some of yours though.

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          Alastar Packerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          Good going on this Judi and thanks. Just found a history swipe from mine...sorry looking page with no pics but plenty of ads.

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             Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

             The sites do all look awful.  I've just found hub 51.

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                Rock_njposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                Where are some good hackers when you need them.  This sites need to be taken down one way or another.

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                   Anti-Valentineposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                   That is the right question.

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                Millionaire Tipsposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                They like you.  They really really like you!  Sorry you have to go through all this, but I am so sure that you found these sites.  What makes it so frustrating is that they have been around since January.

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          Millionaire Tipsposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          Thanks Judi, I found a whole bunch more this evening.  This is another advantage of using your own photos and attributing them with your name.  I was able to search for my name and came up with so many articles.  For sure, these sites will be taken down once Google takes a look.  Looks like all of my finance hubs were stolen and the ones about The Sims.  I am sure there will be more, but it is tiring to look for them.

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    Jenn-Anneposted 11 years ago

    All three of my travel hubs were stolen. I have to work all day so I won't have time to file DMCAs until the weekend at the earliest. I venture to guess pretty much everyone on hubpages has had hubs stolen because these sites are nothing but stolen hubs. It bothers me that huge amounts of hubpages.com has been copied elsewhere but admin says they can't do anything in these situations. I know they can't file DMCAs but surely they can help bring the theft to google's attention?

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       Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Sorry you've found some of yours, though like you I tend to think that a very large proportion of hubbers must be affected.
       
       I too find it disappointing that when there's an issue of scraping on this scale affecting such a large number of people on the site that HP can't join with us to find a solution.

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          theraggededgeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          You must have been reading my mail Just started another thread, trying to attract their attention.
          
          I'm up to 41 DMCAs now.

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             Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

             Just commented on the other post!
             
             Pretty much HALF my subdomain is copied.

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    WriteAngledposted 11 years ago

    I've sent a copyright complaint to Google Search and another one to Adsense.

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    LCDWriterposted 11 years ago

    I went to see if any of my pet articles were on there but it seems that maybe at least some of these sites are down this morning?  Maybe?

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       TheKatsMeowposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       @LCDWriter I just checked on pets-and-animal .com I looked for your username in the search but nothing came up.

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       DeborahNeyensposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       I wasn't able to find the BuinessEmployment site. Many of my best-performing hubs are on employment law topics so that site was of particular concern to me. Does anyone know if it is still up?

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          Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          Yes it is:  http://www. business-employment. com/

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             DeborahNeyensposted 11 years agoin reply to this

             Thanks. Fortunately, I didn't see any more of mine there. My food and cooking hubs took a big hit, however.

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             spartucusjonesposted 11 years agoin reply to this

             I have at least 7 on that one, to go along with the 12 I found on the Entertainment and Media site. The one thing that concerns me a bit is one of the hubs that was scraped I no longer have published here. I deleted it and I ended up selling it on Constant Content. Before I listed it on Constant Content I Copyscaped it to make sure that it wasn't showing up in Google and there was no results. That being said if my copied hubs are not showing up in search results maybe that is at least a good thing.

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    Judi Beeposted 11 years ago

    Sadly it's still there - I put an extra "s" in my original list - should be www. pets-and-animal. com

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       GoodLadyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Just found my best traffic (pet) hub stolen!

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          Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          So sorry - mine too

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    GoodLadyposted 11 years ago

    Thanks for this thread Judith, though it's so disheartening.  So sorry we're all being ripped off
    
    I'll try to find some time to check on my hubs now that I've learned at least 4 have been copied, and will report the crimes in time, but sense this one- by -one reporting isn't going to stop this full-on  stealing.

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    SimeyCposted 11 years ago

    Just found 25 hubs on one of those sites - checking into the others - lotsa DCMA filing coming up in the next few days!!!

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       GoodLadyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Just found 16.

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    MelChiposted 11 years ago

    I just found a bunch of my hub articles copied - my most popular one as well. No wonder my traffic and earnings have dropped!! This is BS. Guess I'll be spending the weekend filing these DCMA complaints and setting up Google Alerts. Fun times. Losing faith in HP...

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       theraggededgeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Yes, the support is underwhelming, to say the least
       
       I am definitely considering alternative options.

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          Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          Oh, was there support?  Damn, I missed it

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             cclitgirlposted 11 years agoin reply to this

             LOL, Judi. 
             I'm thinking there HAS to be a better way than this...or am I crazy?

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                Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                Apparently there just simply isn't a better way than this.  Unless you're at Squidoo

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                   TheKatsMeowposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                   yes it seems like if you write at squidoo they take care of this for you....

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                   Marcy Goodfleischposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                   Well, after having at least one hub copied on Squidoo, reporting it and having NO response from them, I am not hugely confident in them, either.  Google is taking it down, but the 'lens' is still there.  And the person has an account here (which I feel I documented quite well), but HP did not feel there were enough facts to remove the person.

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          jezebellaminaposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          This is so frustrating!!! I don't understand why HubPages won't jump in and help. This thing is huge and we could really use their support!!! It seems they are purposefully staying out of all threads on this topic.

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             Thelma Albertsposted 11 years agoin reply to this

             Yep, it would be a great help if and when HubPages jump in and help us. I think I have to stop writing new hubs until something good happens here. I don´t see why I waste my time and effort in creating new hubs just to be stolen by those thieves. I´ll file DMCA, read and comments here but no more hubs to be publish online.
             Sorry to say this, but my ulcer is coming back due to this copyright infringement.

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                theraggededgeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                Thelma, HP DID step in and help. The scraper sites being discussed have been taken down

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                   AMFredenburgposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                   That's good to know!

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                   TheKatsMeowposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                   @theraggededge, just curious why do you think it was hubpages that stepped in? I assumed it was from authors complaining to the scraper's hosting company..?

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                      theraggededgeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                      Because of this thread: http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/111495
                      
                      I suspect it was a combination of all our actions that got rid of them. I was just responding to the poster who said that HP needs to get involved

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                         TheKatsMeowposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                         cool thanks!

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    Marcy Goodfleischposted 11 years ago

    I just filed DMCAs on a bunch of hubs - this is pretty much ALL I have been able to do for about three months, aside from my real life and knocking out a few hubs to keep current here.
    
    Judi - thanks for posting the list of site names - you've done us all a tremendous favor.
    
    FYI - at least one site name isn't popping up (it's like the search engine stalls or something). I am hopeful maybe that's a sign Google is working on it.
    
    Does anyone know if we should be looking at Bing, Yahoo, etc.?  I did not know life on a user-generated content site would require more hours than I have to give of tracking down stolen content.  I appreciate that I am learning as part of the process.  But this is tiring.

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    vmartinezwilsonposted 11 years ago

    I just spent some time reporting 9 of my hubs stolen.  It's very odd, because my hubs, especially the ones they took, are all research type hubs.  They're not for the faint of heart and you really got to love the topic to sit through and read them. 
    
    After some consideration, it appears they took the hubs that has multiple links to other hubs. For example, they took an in depth look comparing violence in the movies The Bridge and Grizzly Man.  They then took short film reviews for each movie that I did separately.  They did the same for an overview of Russian cinema, then took the film review for Mother.
    
    The most interesting part, is that though they are taking my hubs that are extremely specific, they haven't really touched the ones that get the most hits. 
    
    When I used to review adcopy for Bing, I used to see spam sights like this all the time.  Very lazily done.  Little consideration about content, if any at all.  Hopefully Google will be more effective about removing/baning sights like these than their counterpart.

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    Judi Beeposted 11 years ago

    Glad to be able to help Marcy - I wish HP would at least agree to sticky this thread so that it is constantly visible.  The more people who check and file DMCAs the quicker we can get this guy gone.

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       GoodLadyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Yes, at least a sticky thread.  Thanks for the list of site names.

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    SimeyCposted 11 years ago

    On the plus side (and it's a very big plus me thinks) - I've done a google search for the titles of each of my stolen hubs - mine appears on the first page - the 'stolen' content doesn't - so it's not having any impact on my traffic as it's not visible....

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       Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       My traffic fell significantly around the time this guy started operating despite the fact that I outrank his articles.  I think the crappy links he is pointing at my subdomain are affecting it.

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    cclitgirlposted 11 years ago

    Judi Bee - a HUGE thank you for compiling these sites.  You made it a lot easier to search, find the links and file a DMCA complaint.
    Now that I've spent the last 4 and a half hours doing this, I'm still not sure if I found all my hubs.  :'(

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       Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Glad it helped - sorry it's such a drag though.

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    wikinairaposted 11 years ago

    you have time for compiling list like this...anyway you try

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    TheKatsMeowposted 11 years ago

    what makes this even more frustrating is I just checked out the site financeforpeoples, and a slew of new stolen hubs posted today have just popped up. One of them is even about the 30 day 30 hub challenge!

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       Judi Beeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Oh yes, he's still posting content today - I noticed today's date on posts on his educationforscience site.

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          wildernessposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          Maybe our work will help.  I've just filed 69 DMCA claims with Google plus filed for copyright violation with Adsense.  Would love to cost this thief his adsense account.

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       TIMETRAVELER2posted 11 years agoin reply to this

       The articles are so weird...I just looked at financingforpeoples and it didn't even make any sense to me.  This is obviously an offshore hack whose English leaves a lot to be desired.  It's too bad Google doesn't offer more ways for authors to protect their work as a DMCA only works if the hacker is in the US.

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          Jenn-Anneposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          When I first went searching I saw that my hubs were copied in full but when I looked at them just now it appears that only parts of my hubs are showing up.  However, any parts of my hubs are still mine so I have filed a complaint with Adsense to go along with the DMCA complaints I filed yesterday.

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             Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

             If they are only one or two paragraphs and a hyperlink back to your original, then it's not a contravention and Google won't take action.

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                AMFredenburgposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                True. If it's only a snippet with a link, it's actually helping your traffic.

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                Jenn-Anneposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                No, there's no link back to my hubs or anything like that. I don't know why only some of the content was showing up when yesterday it was all there. Maybe my computer is blocking some of it.

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                theraggededgeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                No hyperlinks back to original. Often he takes the first image attribution and a couple of paragraphs - just enough keywords there to hang a bunch of Adsense ads on.

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          TheKatsMeowposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          i know what you mean about the articles being weird, like everything is copied including polls and quizzes with all the questions and results. It's such a hack job and It's obvious it didn't take the thief long time to copy each article.

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             Marisa Wrightposted 11 years agoin reply to this

             They do it using software which automatically scrapes the entire Hub.  It's all done with computers so it's very fast and continuous.

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                TheKatsMeowposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                right, I understand that. I was merely stating that it made it look funny on their site...

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    Chris Achilleosposted 11 years ago

    I didn't find any of mine yet but I am sure i found one that was written by another writer on Hubpages because I remember reading it, the writer was teaches12345. The hub they took is "The Gift of a Child's Drawing" and it's on educationforscience.com.

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       Chris Achilleosposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       It on this page:
       http://www.educationforscience.com/the- … awing.html

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          cclitgirlposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          Chris - thanks.  I already let her know I'd seen them on some of the other sites, too.

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             Chris Achilleosposted 11 years agoin reply to this

             No problem, I sent her a message as well. I hope this matter gets sorted soon.

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    SimeyCposted 11 years ago

    Interesting read:
    
    http://perishablepress.com/content-scrapers-suck-ass/
    
    Wonder if HP would consider blocking IP addresses? It would at least stop the rot a little!

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       brianrockposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       Personally, I like the Chris Coyier / CSS tricks article that the author is responding to (http://css-tricks.com/scrapers-wear-doodoo-hats/).
       
       He offers some sane, valuable advice. Counter-intuitive, but sane and logical.

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