Payout for new HP ad program!

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habeeposted 12 years ago
I'm almost at payout with the new HP ad program, so I'm pretty psyched! This isn't a "nanny-nanny-boo-boo" for those of you who aren't enrolled yet. I hope it gives you something to look forward to, since everyone will be onboard before long. Be happy that it works!

Since I joined HP, I've always enjoyed learning of the success of my fellow hubbers. It gave me hope and provided me with inspiration and the impetus to continue. I sincerely hope that this post has the same effect!
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  ryankettposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Awesome, what's the threshold by the way?
  
  I no longer post about the Ad program, as a result of all the "nanny nanny boo boos".
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  lrohnerposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I'm pretty sure I read that the payout is $50.
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  Sally's Troveposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  You are right, the payout is $50.
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  Marisa Wrightposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  $50? Really? Wow, I'm nearly there already and I only enrolled a week ago!
  
  Until I saw this thread, I hadn't even bothered to check how much I had. Now I know why my Adsense earnings had taken a dive - here I was, thinking it was the algo change, but it looks like some of it is just being transferred to the new program.
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  Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Hey Marisa,
  
  Here is another thread worth reading. I think it might be helpful.
  
  http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/69910
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  Lisa HWposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Marissa, hope that brightened your day.
  
  Last weekend my AdSense had taken such a dive I actually started looking at what was happening on the new program, pretty much out of horror and desperation. I've been watching it since then, mostly to get a reading on any trend that may start to appear.
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  Mutiny92posted 12 years agoin reply to this
  It has not been a fun experience. The HP Ad Program has been a bright spot though.
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  Greek Oneposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  oh sure, that's all fine and dandy for those of you who are into the 'money'...
  
  but what about we who signed up looking for love?
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  DoorMattnomoreposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  awww Greek, you gets lots of love, don't you?
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  Greek Oneposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  hi Door!
  
  How ya been?
  
  Sure I get lots of love.. but only when the wife falls a sleep.. and I have to be very quiet so I don't wake her up
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  DoorMattnomoreposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  ha ha ha ha!!! I'm well, thank you and Ive been a new mommy more then once. You don't have to be that quiet.
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  Uninvited Writerposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Shaddup!
  
  I've earned $10 this week.
  
  But, seriously, congratulations.
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  Dorsiposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Habee: Congrats and I'm glad you shared. I think it's a big inspiration for other hubbers to know there are earnings to be made here!
  
  AND BTW, I'm excited too because I'm halfway to payout and I've only had the HP ads on for a few days.
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  netlexisposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Congrats, Habee, and glad that you and the other hubbers are paving the way for the rest of us.
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  Baileybearposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I checked out your hubs to see what these new ads looked like. I only saw google & amazon
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  Randy Godwinposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  You probably see some of them on your hubs during HP's share of time, BB. Kroger Cart Busters or something like that. Some are on the bottom of your hubs.
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  Baileybearposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I haven't been invited to the program
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  Randy Godwinposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Neither have I. Apparently HP feels okay with using the new ad program on our hubs during their share of the time, even if we cannot. Probably still testing, but I'm sure they aren't keeping the money though!
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  Baileybearposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  really? - that's not fair that they put ads on my hubs and I don't get any benefit
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  sunforgedposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  After 9 months, why do you now decide that HP cant place ads on your writings 40% of the time?
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  Baileybearposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  oh, so this 60:40 thing is a time share thing, not a taking a percentage of what Google ads get? Never did fully understand it
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  sunforgedposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  sorry, the Hp ads are not making up significant losses for me, so I am generally irritable at the moment.. Yes, it is an impression share system. Which is preferable to a revenue share system as Hp does not act as a middle man under the impression share system.
  
  60% of the time the ad blocks contain adsense ads with your id in them and you profit 100% from what they may earn (the same with amazon/ebay and kontera if you place them in the hub) and the tracking and payment is done under a direct relationship between you and adsense.
  
  If it was revenue share than Hp would have to collect all the money and then redistribute it.
  
  The Hp ads pretty much is a revenue share model and wont be directly "keyword" targetted, but perhaps certain advertisers appear in certain categories or high traffic hubs only. By Hp doing a revenue share or per impression share they are opening up a revenue stream that normally would not be accessible to smaller publishers
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  Randy Godwinposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  They have always used whatever ads they wish during their time, Bailybear. During your time you are stuck with whatever Google decides to display or your own Amazon ads. Fair? Depends on your perspective!
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  Baileybearposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I've obviously been confused this whole time about how it works. The ads aren't really keyword things either?
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  Randy Godwinposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  60% of the time the ad clicks go to you. 40% of the time goes to HP. There is no 60-40 earnings share like one is led to believe at first glance. HP may even be making much more on their 40% of the time than you are on your 40%. There is no way to know for sure.
  
  The same goes for the Amazon sales. If someone spent $10,000 buying items on your hub you would not get a cent unless the products were bought during your time share. Or the cookie was still in effect and the buyer purchased within the time limit.
  
  You rolls the dice and takes your chances!
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  Baileybearposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  so with the new ad program, does this mean one can earn on clicks 100% of the time?
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  CASE1WORKERposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  no its still the 60/40 split
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  darksideposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  The new Ad Program, unless any official word has said otherwise, is most likely CPM. So it is not PPC.
  
  The CPM rate can vary depending on the advertiser, and 60% of the time the ads will be attributed to you.
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  darksideposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  There has never been a mention of a 60/40 earnings share. People are mistaken if they think so, but they are never led that way.
  
  And neither do 60% of the clicks go to us and 40% go to HP. 60% of the ad impression go to us. That is not the same as 60% of the clicks.
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  Randy Godwinposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  You are correct, Darkside. I simply meant many newcomers mistakenly think the earnings equate to a 60-40% split, not that the terms imply this is the case.
  
  Clicks, impressions, CPM, PPC, etc. can be confusing to those of us not familiar with the jargon. As you can tell by my post.
  
  So, is HP's method of payment for their share of Adsense the same as a members? Or does the ads displayed on HP's time share likely earn them a similar amount for the same percentage of time? If you know or can give a rough estimate.
  
  I'm quite sure I'm not the only person confused about this aspect of the earnings split.
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  Pearldiverposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Well of course you aren't... it is as Clear as Mud for those of us newbies who are still wondering why our accolades get removed when we ask why Trolls frequent the forums! Isn't that also why our Hubber Scores Drop down too?
  Clear as Mud this tech stuff, that allows trolls to negatively impact the hard work of real people! Transparent as Mud!
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  Randy Godwinposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Your accolades have been removed by HP? I didn't know they would do this! Any explanation from HP concerning this, PD?
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  darksideposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  How much HP earns on their 40% split compared to
  how much we earn on our 60% split would only be known if we saw both figures.
  
  The fact that we have 20% more means we have more chance of earning money.
  
  Any given day could yield different results. But if we looked at a larger sampling I believe the earnings would reflect the split. That for every $100 Adsense is paying out for a specific page we're getting around $60 and HubPages is getting $40.
  
  I have seen discussions in the past where people have asked "but what if HubPages is getting more money when their ads are being shown?" but the reverse is true too, what if we are? So all in all, it's a big waste of time fretting over it and over time it will all even out, and we get the lions share of the impression split.
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  Randy Godwinposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks Darkside! Not trying to imply we are getting ripped off by HP, just trying to get the views of how this stuff works.
  
  I know very little about such things and doubt I am not alone. I'd never touched a computer until about four years ago, nor written anything at all. Sorry for my ignorance.
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  darksideposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  It's good to ask questions.
  
  I have one of my own.
  
  What's with the snake smilie at the end of every post?
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  Randy Godwinposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  It makes it easy for me to find my posts when I'm running through them looking for a particular one. Either that or I'm actually Satan tormenting the christians. You ever thought about how hard it is to get followers with a snake avatar? At least you get Star Wars fans!
  
  Do you dislike my using it?
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  darksideposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Absolutely no problem here with you using it.
  
  I figured it was being used as a sig. And I do actually prefer it than people signing off with their name.
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  Andrew0208posted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Congratulations Habee!
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  Barbara Kayposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Where do you look to find out how much you earned? I was one of the ones chosen to start the program, but I never received anything about this. Thanks.
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  lrohnerposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Did you actually go through the signup process? If so, go to My Account > Earnings > HubPages Ad Program.
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  Barbara Kayposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks. Wow! I'm doing better than I've ever gotten with Adsense. I'm happy.
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Sally's Troveposted 12 years ago
Love your spirit, Habee. I'm liking what I'm seeing from the HP ad program. Where AdSense is dropping off for me, HP is kicking in. No "nanny nanny boo boo" ought to be in the head of any Hubber. This is a good opportunity that HP made for its members.

I'm thrilled for you, but you've got 755 Hubs to my 64. Waaaah! I'm not going to see a payout from HP for a while.
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DoorMattnomoreposted 12 years ago
awesome news Habee!! I think if people work hard at what they do, and do well, they deserve credit for it. AND it's great you are helpful and motivating. I hope people will read this as encouraging, and if not, nanny nanny boo boo is pretty funny. I hope to use it at some point on my hubby when he gets home.
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Cagsilposted 12 years ago
Congrats Habee!
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paradigmsearchposted 12 years ago
The South Rises Again!
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  habeeposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  We Southerners are usually "hard dogs to keep under the porch." Lol!
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leahleflerposted 12 years ago
That is wonderful! It definitely gives many of us something to look forward to: I love hearing great news!

Congratulations!
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skyfireposted 12 years ago
Cool.
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K9keystrokesposted 12 years ago
"Nanny-nanny-boo-boo"-- Hilarious! Thank you for the inspiration Habee, it is encouraging to see the community has something to look forward to with the HubPages ad program! Can't wait to get to take it for a spin!

BTW~Your intent has never been in question here or at any other time for me. Very grateful for your uplifting spirit!

Ciao!
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  habeeposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  K9, thanks so much for your kind words!
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CASE1WORKERposted 12 years ago
that's great news and someone with your amount of hubs should reach payout!

guess they put me on the programme cos they knew they would have a few months to save the $50 to pay me out!
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lakeerieartistsposted 12 years ago
Congrats Habee! Well deserved. I have to admit that I have never heard anyone say nanny nanny boo boo. Is that like neener neener?
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Aficionadaposted 12 years ago
Congrats to all! Yes, it's inspiring and encouraging. Thanks for sharing!
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Richieb799posted 12 years ago
Well Done Habee, I'm really jealous, I wish they would invite me next, I want it so much!
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shoganposted 12 years ago
Geez, way to rub it in, habee.

Seriously, congrats!
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silentsapphireposted 12 years ago
Many congratulations to you Habee. You continue to be a source of inspiration for me.Keep up the good work.
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Lisa HWposted 12 years ago
Also not a "nanny nanny boo boo", but it looks like I'll reach the threshold for pay-out tomorrow. Honestly - just to want to encourage anyone who could use it. No "nanny boo" etc.
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Randy Godwinposted 12 years ago
Congrats Holle! And even though I'm not in the program It still has its uses. I don't have to right click on ads to see if my time share is in effect. If I see one of those bright Kroger ads on the Hub, I know It ain't mine!
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sunforgedposted 12 years ago
Hp has been testing the "new ad program" for quite a long time. Ad networks besides adsense have been displaying in the hub impression share for as long as I have been here.

The only thing "new" about it is that they are offering the alternative of sharing this revenue stream with their writers now.

I know Hp ads have been getting mostly rave reviews, but I made approximately double in adsense what the Hp adshare has averaged so far.

Thats at an average comparison of what I would expect per 1000 views in adsense compared to HP ads. That doesnt take in account any damage that the less attractive and untargeted nature of the ads may be having on first impressions and in turn loss of product sales.

If you did well on adsense, you probably are not missing out on anything. If you previously did not do well on adsense then the hp ads will probably earn more than you are accustomed to.

To me "well" would be at least a penny per view.

Those "kroger" ads are specifically irritating and out of place on almost all hubs. It bothers me specifically because Im not sure about the purpose of the recent product restriction placement and amount rules.

If its was intended for "visitor impression" than allowing ugly ads in the other networks seems like a waste of my time to correct product placement to new guidelines. Since it doesnt get much uglier than the Kroger ads and im sure it has ugly stepsisters waiting in the shadows.

If the reason for the guideline change was something more technical that the datacrunchers figured out - and the outgoing afflinks are a problem , then the capsules should just be blocked from being crawl-able. Easy peasy solution.

I hate reworking old content just to see new mistakes appear in the sidebars that I cant control.
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  Randy Godwinposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I had similar thoughts when reading the new hub layout guidelines. The ads indeed look cheesy and make the page look lots worse than the Amazon ads. I suppose it depends on how you want others to view your work, whether seriously, or simply as a way to earn money.
  
  But I suppose if one doesn't enable the program the ads would still appear on HP's share of the time like they do now, even if the writer is not allowed to be in the program. Not sure I like it much at this point.
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  lrohnerposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I'm making more on the HP ads than I did with AdSense, but I didn't even notice the Kroger ads until I read your post. And it makes sense now. Many of my hubs are food-related -- exactly the type of consumer that would click on a Kroger ad. Habee does a lot of food-related hubs too.
  
  I'm surprised that a company like Kroger would take out any ad placement that's not geotargeted. They only have locations in something like half of the states. For them to invest in national advertising, either it's a dirt-cheap placement, or their online marketing manager is pretty new to the game. In any case, that means that only about 50% or less of my hub readers would ever click on that ad.
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  Randy Godwinposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  That could be it. It seems to glare out at me from some of mine. But I suppose they are meant to catch the eye. I hope there aren't many of those type ads. I wondered about the national thing too. Perhaps only those in a certain part of the country sees them.
  
  Want your goat back, Ms Ironer?
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  lrohnerposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I don't know. I see them, and there are no Kroger stores anywhere in my state.
  
  So, YOU got my goat?
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  darksideposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Don't forget, it's an impression based revenue system, not click.
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  lrohnerposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  Right. I did forget about that. So that leaves "newbie online marketing manager" as the only explanation.
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melporposted 12 years ago
Congratulations Habee on your first payout from the Hubpages Ad program. Wow! You are probably the first one to receive payout from this program. Keep working.
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  darksideposted 12 years agoin reply to this
  I do believe she means that she had passed over the $50 threshold to achieve payment.
  
  Payment is the second month after the money is accrued.
  
  So money earned in this month, March, will be paid in May.
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emievilposted 12 years ago
Congrats Habee! I'm not surprised you reached it so quickly. You certainly deserve this good news
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Hovalisposted 12 years ago
Congrats, Habee! It's great to hear a good news story since the Google update. :-)
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SandyMcCollumposted 12 years ago
Congrats Habee, glad to hear it! I can't wait until I am invited to participate, too.
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theherbivorehippiposted 12 years ago
Happy for you Habee but I would be lying if I didn't say I'm not jealous I wasn't invited. I'm literally turning green with envy over here....wait...maybe it's because St. Patrick's Day is coming and I'm half Irish. lol Keep up the good work!
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mega1posted 12 years ago
Good going Habee! looking forward to the new ads - I am trying to figure out what a "Nanny-nanny boo-boo" is - and maybe it doesn't matter - is that when I come running to other hubbers to have them look at my mistake?
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