Esoteric, you really do not need to get your facts straight. Its up to you!
It doesn't bother me in the least little bit if you don't.
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Disgraceful! With the a stroke of his pen, Barack Obama becomes the world's largest financier of radical Islamic terrorism.
* https://twitter.com/jonkarl/status/688746228046258176
Susie, you conveniently resort to biblical texts when the discussion gets beyond your understanding, or just too difficult to answer.
When you repeatedly cut and paste extracts from right-wing propaganda, this is another way for you to avoid direct and intelligent discussion.
All you are doing is forwarding prejudicial scandal. Try looking at this Website and consider how the corrupt, greedy, couldn't-care-less people of your country have used big business and big oil to serve their own ends.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/artic … 1315003241
Realise also that often the same individuals have thought nothing of peddling pseudo-christianity, also to serve their own agendas .
Presumably you believe all that propaganda that you pass on to us. So, you are equally guilty. ??
In REALITY ~ President Obama has indeed acknowledged this and every other THREAT now Facing America and is doing Exactly what needs to be done to "Confront, Control, & Abate" it ~
Ted Cruz was Born in a Foreign Country, a Different Place with Different VALUES which means he obviously dosen't understand what being President of the United States is all about ~ His "War Crime" Mantra of "Carpet BOMBING" the Middle EAST to test if the "SAND Glows" proves this to be true ~
I'm sure if given the Chance, he would probably "Carpet BOMB" certain Minority Ethnic Groups & Religious Denominations right here in America if he could ~
Psalm 103: 11 ... For as high as the heavens are above the earth, So great is His loving kindness toward those who fear Him. 12 As far as the east is from the west, So far has He removed our transgressions from us. 13 Just as a father has compassion on his children, So the LORD has compassion on those who fear Him.…
How sweet it is to have guilt (transgressions) removed when we know the Lord and His loving kindness.
1 Peter 3:16...keeping a clear conscience, so that those who speak maliciously against your good behavior in Christ may be ashamed of their slander.
Its a wonderful feeling to have a clear conscience!
Mark 7:21 .... "For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed the evil thoughts, fornications, thefts, murders, adulteries, 22 deeds of coveting and wickedness, as well as deceit, sensuality, envy, slander, pride and foolishness. 23 "All these evil things proceed from within and defile the man."
Woe!
1 Corinthians 6:8 ... On the contrary, you yourselves wrong and defraud. You do this even to your brethren. 9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.…
It is good to know the Lord ... I am blessed!
Thanks for the reminders of how blessed I am.
Here is the problem with your personal version of religion where you have cherry-picked those passages which support your view, but are blind to those passages which 1) contradict your position that you want the Bible to justify or 2) which opposes your position that you want the Bible to justify.
"His loving kindness toward those who fear Him." and "Just as a father has compassion on his children, So the LORD has compassion on those who fear Him" .…WHY FEAR?? Why not Love Him? Do you simply fear your father and not love him. If I had reason to fear him (like he is going to hit me) then I won't love him. This is precisely why I dumped Christianity so many years ago.12 As far as the east is from the west, So far has He removed our transgressions from us. 13
1 Peter 3:16...keeping a clear conscience, so that those who speak maliciously against your good behavior in Christ may be ashamed of their slander. - You are presuming people have "good behavior" toward Christ. Most Christians I know don't exhibit such behavior nor do your posts. For the most part, your posts seem to reject Christ's teachings.
Mark 7:21 .... "For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed the evil thoughts, fornications, thefts, murders, adulteries, 22 deeds of coveting and wickedness, as well as deceit, sensuality, envy, slander, pride and foolishness. 23 "All these evil things proceed from within and defile the man." to which I respond by saying -
"For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed the good thoughts, charity, good deeds, empathy, love, 22 deeds of helping others, as well as honesty, thoughtfulness, respect, praise, self-absurdness and wisdom. 23 "All these good things proceed from within and raise the man."
1 Corinthians 6:8 ... On the contrary, you yourselves wrong and defraud. ... will inherit the kingdom of God.…
- but problem here is, they are all Part of the Kingdom of God, which is the Universe.
What does all of this have to do with the topic at hand?
Sorry, but you are being criticized for being evasive in your style and cherry picking scriptures much like conservatives like to do. But, it detracts from your points rather than augment them.
My favorite "cherry-picked" Bible verse is where Jesus said "You must be born again" in John 3:3 & 3:7.
And how does that affect the life you lead in this world or benefit your brothers and sisters that share your space?
New life in Christ is available to all* as is eternal salvation.
*Excepting the Antichrist & False Prophet.
That is one of my favorite verses as well. Thank you for sharing...nice cherry-picking...it brings back fond memories from childhood. It is meaningful beyond expression as a core belief.
There are only two destinations for the human soul, heaven or hell. I have known where I'll be going since I was a child. I'll be going to be with Almighty God!
I believe discussions are better than arguments because an argument is to find out who is right, and a discussion is to find out what is right. - Cheers!
Here's good laugh!
I ignore control freaks who think you have to answer their silly questions.
I don't hear anyone on the Left wanting to ban all gun owners from entering this country (or banning guns, for that matter); I only hear the Right wanting to ban all Muslims from America
What? I suppose that is what you hear on liberal news..."Right wanting to ban all Muslims from America"
BREAKING NEWS: "A temporary ban on Syrian refugees until they can be properly vetter". .
That is common sense. We have had enough radical Islamic attacks on American soil, and too many Americans have been murdered by sick-minded Muslims who want to kill us.
Or, are you for Jihad on America? Are you into Islam?
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Huh? I don't hear anyone saying this, "wanting to ban all gun owners from entering this country".
I doubt he was envisioning the crap being thrown around on this forum as being 'born again'. The religious garbage being espoused here is more of the being possessed variety. And not by a Holy Spirit.
Of course he says that. It is self-serving statement in that that is the only way to get Jews to follow him. It is not a command from God for God could care less if someone follows Jesus, Mohammed, or simply Abraham. God only wants his creations to use the mind and reasoning power he gave them. If they don't, he wasted his time.
BTW, why do GOOD parents want their children to Love them rather than Fear them?
Because the parents first loved their children as Jesus first loved us.
Nothing holy about throwing crap. That's one good reason not to have a religion. Thanks for the great example, LL. I'm sure you can demonstrate more examples for us. Please, do. Too cute!
Going in a garage doesn't make you a car anymore than going in a church makes you a Christian.
Again, being born-again has nothing to do with religion.. It has everything to do with knowing Jesus Christ. Thank God for that! But, religion can mess that up royally. ... We should not live in legalism that Scriptures do not impose. Religious people do impose legalism to control.
Have a blessed day!
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Example of what religion looks like today. Nothing holy about it.
Anglican Communion Suspends U.S. Episcopal Church Over Same-Sex Marriage
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ang … ex-n496786
The Episcopal Church in the U.S. has received a major scolding. The worldwide Anglican Communion voted to suspend the entire U.S. Episcopal Church this week because it has embraced same-sex marriage, allowing the election of homosexual priests and allowing same-sex marriages to be performed. It is wrong and is against what Almighty God clearly teaches in His Word. But, religious people will argue against God's Word...they have a different Jesus from the One in the Bible.
We can only hope this will cause the Episcopal Church in America to realize the seriousness of the steps they have taken that are contrary to the Bible and cause them to turn back to following what God’s Word teaches.
Churches are turning into the Rainbow House now? Not a good sign!
Not a good leader in the Rainbow House...unholy!
Live to Learn...are you one of those religious people you are referring to? Its really hard to tell.
Let me spell this out for you...Having a relationship with Jesus Christ is not religion, knowing God is not a religion. That simple.
I do realize that you want to label yourself something different but, your words in this thread make it very clear that the standard definition of religious applies to you. There is nothing wrong with being religious; as long as someone is honest with themselves about it. If one can't be honest with oneself it is difficult for others to trust them to be able to make honest assessments of other things.
Also, I agree that there is nothing holy about throwing crap. I do wish a couple of religious people in this thread would stop it.
There is nothing in that bible of yours that condemns homosexuality. Even if there was it would be a human imposition, because the entire book was written and compiled by humans for ulterior purpose.
Johnny, Colorfulone is correct as there is at least a couple of references that condemn homosexuality in the Bible.
I have a religious belief, but I am not here to beat people over the head with it nor hide behind it rather than engage in straight foward discussion.
The problem with her and other conservatives, is that not everybody subscribes to this and it cannot be foisted upon a religiously diverse electorate. The Constitution was written to a neutral position on religion and not have any one groups particular interpretation be codified as the 'law of the land'.
I am a Christian...and if that makes my views conservative to a Left-wing or far Left-Right-Wing or whomever...so be it. No problem. I do not belong to the Right or Left party nor to a religion.
I belong to Christ. Is there a party for that? Christian!
I am a sinner saved by the Grace of God, and grateful!
Unlike David Bowie, I know where I am going when I die.
God bless you, Cred.
Judge and jury of David Bowie. And,I thought only God knew the heart of the individual. How do you live with so much power at your fingertips?
Judge and jury of David Bowie. And,I though only God knew the heart of the individual. How do you live with so much power at your fingertips? ~ LIVE TO LEARN
David Bowie, himself said he didn't know where he was going when he died. "I don't know where I'm going from here, but I promise it won't be boring."
I can rest assured that I know where I am going when I die...right into the presence of Almighty God.
There are only two destinations for a human soul, Heaven or Hell.
Who is being a judge and jury? I would not judge that! But, you...?
You are so cute! (nit picking?)
God is all powerful! ("I though"...there you go thinking again)
Matthew 12:34King James Version (KJV)
"O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh."
Luke 6:45 King James Version (KJV)
"A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh."
* It can be real easy to see what a person's heart is like when they speak.
Just saying.
Proverbs 17:28 - "Even a fool seems wise if he keeps quiet..."
But, there is hope! ...
2 Timothy 2:15 (KJV) "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."
Be blessed!
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"You cannot know another person's heart; no matter what you think of what they say or do. Vipers. He was speaking to the religious." ~ LIVE TO LEARN --- ( Proverbs 17:28
And, the rationalization is to followed from Live to Learn. But...
Proverbs 26:4 ► "Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be just like him. 5 Answer a fool as his folly deserves, That he not be wise in his own eyes."
You cannot know another person's heart; no matter what you think of what they say or do.
Vipers. He was speaking to the religious.
The Pharisees (and more) were the religious people in the day. They took away and added to the Word of God to fit their agendas...and did not believe God's Word was the Truth. So, they denied the Truth and the Truth of the Word. Maybe, kind of like what you are saying?
I would suggest thinking about that for a very, very long time because the Word is specific. God's Word isn't going to change even if you don't believe what it says. (period)
* Matthew 12:34King James Version (KJV)
"O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh."
* Luke 6:45 King James Version (KJV)
"A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh."
***** Matthew 5:18 - "For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."
Gosh, after all that, I must have had auto mechanics on my heart?
I would agree that the word doesn't change. What changes are people's agendas. Which is why I do believe that much of what you have to say has absolutely nothing to do with the will of Christ and much to do with your own prejudices and hatreds. No problem. This is a political forum and your religious beliefs, although flouted with a very self righteous air are in line with the attitudes being commented on when the viper statement was made.
Susie, that mirror on your wall is getting very murky again. Give it a good clean before further use.
You seem unable to face the truth of your own prejudice and agenda.
David Bowie, himself said he didn't know where he was going when he died. "I don't know where I'm going from here, but I promise it won't be boring."
Who would judge a dying man's own words as saying something other than what he said. Not me.
Check your rear view mirror and the "truth of your own prejudice and agenda".
Take the log out of your ____ before you attempt to remove a spec from another's eye.
David Bowie was obviously joking when he said that. A wonderful human being, with a sense of wry humour right up to the last. I can see the joke because I am not hooked on that crazy idea of there being some kind of conscious life after my death. Whereas you, Susie, can't seem to step out of such a belief.
Well, that's your choice, your funeral, your loss of an enjoyable, fun-soaked life.
The trouble is, you try to pull other people down into your superstitious religion - and falsely call it "truth."
I can just image "Him" saying, "Dear soul, in the one chance you had at the life I gave you, most of your time was spent with your head stuck in a book, an ancient manuscript which superstitious people wrote about Me. You spared no time trying to understand Me or my children. What makes you think you will be welcome here?"
For me, jonnycomelately, of course I will not be there. I will not "be," period. You are going to be one very lonely girl in eternity.
With respect, Credence2, Colorfulone has spoken of "..to warp the original meaning." This has been made very plain by Hanavee in his Hub, http://hubpages.com/religion-philosophy … sexuality. If you would care to read right through that book (it's available via Amazon including via Kindle), even before making a prior judgment, I think you would find it very enlightening. Hanavee is not speaking as a "lapsed" Christian. He is still very much in the faith, so I am not directing you to someone who is not aligned with you.
Hanavee's hub gives a very worthwhile synopsis of the book, which might be easier on your time available.
Twilight Zone, Johnny. - YAWN!
1 Corinthians 6:8 ... On the contrary, you yourselves wrong and defraud. You do this even to your brethren. 9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.…
In the Bible the Pharisees were notorious for selecting Scriptures and weaving their own traditions around them to warp the original meaning. And, religious folks are still at it today. (E.g.: The Queen James Bible)
So judge-mental. Having fun with that log, John?
I am blessed in Christ! Blessed of God. Life in Christ is full of Joy!
Matthew 5:11 "Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me."
It is an honor to be living the "The Beatitudes" right here in the HubPages Forums. The Word is Alive and Active...and I'm so blessed....
Please, carry on as you were. No trouble at all!
#blessed vs #callow
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John 8:44 "You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies."
My perfectly good breath would be wasted trying to clear those eyes or mind.
Beezelbub ....."" a barbaric, ruthless and defiant barstard who thought nothing of his fellow man...."
Mmmmm... that's me
But mendacious? No, don't think so. I have no need to lie about what's in store for me.
But thanks for including my evil soul in your prayers.
100%, Sgt Prepper. Interesting learning about that history. Thanks for sharing that.
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More good news! This is a federal judge that Obama appointed.
U.S. District Court Judge Amy Berman Jackson ruled today, and rejected President Barack Obama's assertion of executive privilege to deny Congress access to records pertaining to Operation Fast and Furious, a gunrunning probe that allegedly allowed thousands of weapons to flow across the border into Mexico.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/j … z3xjp6KqKs
Will Obama ever give the honest truth? Nah, he likes the economics of gunrunning, lies, half-truths and cover-ups. He's happy & gay!
He,... can't be honest.
El Chapo ended up with Fast and Furious weapons from Obama's gunrunning scandal. No wonder the Obama Administration didn't want to cooperate. This is a big deal and a great slap-down to El-bama.
Thankfully, the ACLJ's, Jay Sekulow is on the case. I just finished watching his live radio broadcast. I gotta love the judge for being so bold.
* http://aclj.org/constitution/fast--furi … eral-court
.50 Caliber sniper rifle
Fast n Furious...IRS...Benghazi...Hillary emails...the corruption is endless with this administration.
May I have this dance Sgt? I feel like dancing!
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Added: SHTF! Now the EPA is under investigation for targeting conservative groups.
It appears that science, integrity, The Constitution and Common Sense are passé in the Washington establishment. In fact they have been a non-existent, "kiss of Death" on the resume of all appointees of this administration of Demos, RINOs and whatever "ists" perspective those in power profess loyalty to! It's certainly not loyalty to the USA & The Constitution they swore to protect & defend! All three traits that are essential for the long term good of all have been successfully purged in favor of radical zealots dedicated to their uber-subjective "raisin d'être" and committed to bypass legality, The Constitution and all they gave their oath to protect and defend... In order to spin, socially engineer, target and corrupt all conservative thought of "the truths we hold self-evident" in favor of the centralized plan of the elite NWO!
This We desperately need the Convention of States enacted to balance the power in this country, regardless of who becomes POTUS! It's obvious now, more than at any other time in my life, that 19th Century Lord Acton's quote is fully in play with our Federal Government: "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely!"
Please, sign the petition: http://www.conventionofstates.com/
Remember Obama's SOTU address where he said ... “The United States of America, right now, has the strongest, most durable economy in the world. Anyone claiming that America’s economy is in decline is peddling fiction.”
Well turns out he can't even come up with a 1/2 truth on that topic. The guy cannot be honest or will not be honest with the American people. Psychopath!
Look at the projection of the Federal Debt. Obama is a comedian.
The economy is in decline and it seems Obama is "peddling fiction".
The Congressional Budget Office Report...January 19, 2016.
In 2016, the federal budget deficit will increase, in relation to the size of the economy, for the first time since 2009, according to the Congressional Budget Office’s estimates. If current laws generally remained unchanged, the deficit would grow over the next 10 years, and by 2026 it would be considerably larger than its average over the past 50 years, CBO projects. Debt held by the public would also grow significantly from its already high level.
* https://www.cbo.gov/publication/51129
Pants on fire!
Colorfulone, once again you quote just a part of a report, in italics, hoping to impress upon us a false understanding!
Read the summary of that report, in the link which you posted for us. It gives a totally opposite view of the situation to what you want us to believe.
Once again your rampant bias shows its ugly face.
How can you equate such falsehoods with your acclaimed christian message?
Horrific numbers released about Iraq. Nearly 19,000 civilians have been killed in Iraq in the past 21 months, with another 36,000 have been injured.
Approximately 3.2 million people have had to leave their homes in Iraq, which includes a million school-aged children.
Slavery: ISIS holds about 3,500 slaves and continues to subject women and children to sexual violence and slavery.
Unbelievable atrocities are revealed in the CNN report including the Islamic State killing child soldiers who flee and killing women who refuse to be forced into sex with their fighters. The report also documents an ISIS-run “Quran recitation contest” in Baghdad, which advertised sex slaves as prizes for the winners. It is a demise of a country at the hands of Islamists.
I totally agree with the U.N. that this is “staggering.” The U.S. and other nations should take note and not allow this tragedy to continue or be repeated anywhere else in the world.
Article: http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/19/middleeas … index.html
As long as Islam exists there will be man's inhumanity to man including killing, maiming and brutality for their god Allah also known as Satan.
Let's rephrase that:
"As long as Christianity exists there will be man's attempts to control humanity through sense of guilt, fear, threats of retribution, eternal damnation, stirring up doubt, perpetuation of lies and make-believe.
All in the name of their god, "Heavenly Father," who in reality is Satan dressed up as Love."
In reality, it's US, us humans, who concoct these mental prisons for ourselves. There is no "god" in reality, only our perceptions. The reality is, many of us humans want power over other humans. We all want to rule and control the world to our own liking.
Individual responsibility comes when "I" recognise reality and try to change "My" life habits accordingly. The task cannot be left to anyone else. Period.
Islamic Jihadists are the problem as I see it. Be they terrorists, military, mercenaries, the president, factory workers, immigrants or refugees... I have known some Muslims for many years and they are good people who work for a living, and strongly disapprove of the radical jihad extremists of Islam. The Muslims in the Middle East can't get along with other Muslims and kill each other. We don't need that on our streets too. We have too much blood shed as it is and it doesn't look like its going to change anytime soon.
I'm glad I am on the sidelines because I would not want to be in charge of the mess the next president is handed...thanks to Obama. 365 days till he leaves office...and counting.
Take it as it comes...one day at a time...and I hope you dance!
I give this Kenyan-born usurper 150-days max. Shotgun Joe will be suddenly thrust into the presidency and naturally he will appoint that witch Hillary our very first female, commie, lesbian VP. Meanwhile Bathhouse Barry will recover enough to head the UN as the undisputed(?) King of the world. Jesuit Pope Francis will force everybody to worship the Antichrist on Sundays.
How can a solidly twice elected President be a usurper??? Isn't that contradictory?
BTW, Sgt Prepper, are you threatening President Obama? By saying he has 150 days max sounds like you want him assassinated? Curious minds want to know.
Both those elections(actually selections) were rife with voter-fraud.
As an illegal-alien and certainly not a natural-born citizen this gay, commie, Moslem Bathhouse Barry is clearly a USURPER. Haven't you ever stopped to wonder why Voter-ID could only be implemented in the red State of Indiana in 2012? Now Voter-ID is too little & too late as the damage has been done.
We blue state people will make sure that it is as difficult to implement everywhere else without heavy review and oversight.
Rightwingers are just sore losers, you will get a chance to see them get their clocked cleaned again in 2016, and you will just plain lose, not voter fraud excuses.
Obama might get what he deserves yet, here's hoping. I don't think Shotgun Joe would appoint Hillary as VP. The FBI keeps pulling damning documents off her wiped unsecured server, some of them are Top Secret, and some have a higher security rating than that that she compromised. She hasn't been interviewed by the FBI yet...and she is scared from what I see. She's attacking Obama's Attorney General now, instead of cackling like a witch. If the Clinton Machine wasn't scared of an indictment by Lynch, she would be laughing like she has been doing. Just my opinion though.
But, wrong is right these days and right is wrong, just like it warns of in the Scriptures.
Help is on the way!
And then Hillary takes over. :-)
What about the Catholics vs Protestants in olden and modern times? Just a wrong word and they will be killing each other in Belfast again.
I don't keep up with the news in Belfast (no TV service). But, I did look up some news sites online out of curiosity. It seems all through history there has been the protestant-catholic conflict in Ireland. Edited to add: (unions and non-union workers)
Such a beautiful country it would to live in at peace.
Geeze...anyone but Hillary, m'dear...please! She cannot live in the present or the future, because of her past (and, Bill's) ...no matter how hard the liberal media tries to hide it.
Bernie is going to be the Dem's nominee...(gain of salt). He is running a better campaign and actually has a large number of people attending his rallies, unlike Hillary.
* Sorry for the delay replying. Caring for my Mom in advanced Alzheimer's takes up most of my time.
Living in the moments of what Is at the moment!
You have misunderstood the terminology involved in the situation in Northern Ireland.
The trouble is not between union and non-union workers, but between Unionists (generally Loyalist Protestants) and Non-Unionists (generally Republican Catholics) - ie those who support the Union of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and those who oppose it.
ISIS mercenaries are having to take a 50% pay cut according to Aymenn Jawad al-Tamimi a leading scholar who tracks ISIS. The leak came from within ISIS.
http://www.aymennjawad.org/media-coverage/
Times are tough for the Islamic State.
Woodrow Wilson, was a executive orders president much like Obama is. These kind of orders can be changed by the next president so they mean nothing really. If Obama is hoping to have some kind of legacy this isn't the way. Now, he is being sued for his gun control executive orders in federal court. He had to expect that. I don't understand this guys actions trying to push this agenda.
Hate to burst your bubble again, but PBO is just so-so on the executive order front; he placed 23 out of 44 presidents. Just for your education, the run-away users of EO are, in order: FDR (Progressive), Hoover (Conservative), Wilson (C) (yes, when you look closely at him, he was more like C's of today except in a couple of areas), Harding (C), Coolidge (C), Taft (C), T Roosevelt (P), and Truman (Moderate),
Further, of modern presidents, PBO placed behind your (not in order) beloved Reagan, both Bush's, Clinton, Carter, Ford, Nixon, Eisenhower, Kennedy, and Johnson.
SO, where do you come off with the hyperbole regarding PBO's use of EOs??
AND BTW, the agenda PBO is pushing is the one most Americans want, sensible gun safety regulations and comprehensive immigration reform. You are just in the very loud minority.
I'm of the belief that we have enough laws on the books, but many of them are not being enforced. Because Obama isn't sensible enough to have them enforced, he'd rather create more regulations = more government control. Those laws enforced would do a lot for taking guns off the streets by putting known criminals behind bars. (and, not releasing violent criminals early from prison) Get the criminally insane (repeat offenders) off the streets and keep them off. And, don't allow more criminally insane people into the US. It makes no sense to me to not enforce the laws that are on the books ... so that law abiding citizens do not feel they need a gun to protect themselves from the bad guys. That's backwards!
I can't understand Colorfulone trying to push this agenda!
It amazes me as how how racist and prejudice people can be in this country...
Yes, it is disturbing but no surprise. Racism was literally invented here in America. After Pope Nicholas V issued the papal bull Dum Diversas in 1452, the European Invasion of this continent in 1492 provided the Europeans with the opportunity to implement it's racist doctrine. America's foundation of evil was based on the Christian White Supremacist rhetoric of this document. Racism was an important tool used to assuage the conscience of Christian peasants; justifying slavery and ethnic cleansing through a supposed racial and moral superiority.
Disagree, racism has been around since humans spread out of Africa and it endemic, to one degree or another, in all nations today. Some countries, such as Europe, have been mostly successful in suppressing its symptoms thereby allowing their racial minorities a reasonable chance at success. Some countries, like America, have been more or less unsuccessful at achieving that goal. But even in Europe, the Right is gaining strength again on the message of racism.
I mean... Eur0pe's n0t great at the wh0le 'n0t being racist' thing. The N0rdic c0untries are always making headlines f0r their minstrel elves and whatn0t. I d0n't kn0w that I w0uld say the US is significantly m0re racist than s0me Eur0pean places. I kn0w in England the st0p and frisk laws are incredibly racist, hiring practices and ec0n0m0ic gr0wth f0r min0rities are r0ughly the same as they are in the US, y0u just d0n't see as many hate crimes because 0verall vi0lent crime rates are l0wer. But I certainly w0uld n0t say that the very place resp0nsible f0r c0l0nializati0n is a better place f0r min0rities, currently, than the states. I think that's a daner0us meth0d 0f thinking that greatly d0wnplays the experiences 0f min0rities wh0 are living and existing in th0se places.
I mean I have a friend in England wh0, this past Hall0ween, sent me a picture fr0m a c0stume sh0p in the English c0untrysid where he's student teaching, that was literally selling blackface, redface, yell0wface, etc make-up. These may n0t be life-0r-death issues but they d0 affect the 0verall s0ci0l0gical climate 0f a nati0n, which, in turn, affects the s0ci0ec0n0mic stability 0f it's citizens.
England, in particular, seems t0 be a difficult place t0 live if y0u're Asian (n0t s0utheast Asian, like m0st Americans instantly zer0 in 0n, but like, fr0m ar0und India). English pe0ple 0f Indian descent rep0rt such high incidences 0f racism that there is a thriving c0smetic surgery business that exists purely t0 make th0se pe0ple l00k m0re "english' (ie, white), s0 that they w0n't be s0 heavily discriminated against.
S0rry I harped 0n England s0 much in this p0st, it's the Eur0pean c0untry that I have the m0st experience with because I have friends wh0 are fr0m there. I'm sure 0ther places aren't great either. I didn't mean f0r this t0 be a "Fuck England" p0st. S0rry, English pe0ple. It must be the American in me c0ming 0ut.
We never did f0rgive y0u all f0r spiking th0se tea prices. It's fucking leaf water, and y0u st0le it fr0m China. That was ridicul0us.
Sorry Esoteric, you have to go to the penalty box on this one. Even as late as the Roman Empire racism did not exist. According to the historical record, what existed prior to the 15th century throughout the world was xenophobia, which is often confused with racism. The roots of racism begin with the Catholic Church and Pope Nicholas V. This is all documented fact. Of course, this fact is not generally known in the United States because of the revisionist history that has always been taught in the public school system; a history that has always omitted many facts about the European Invasion that are unflattering to the Church and the white majority.
That's widely debated. It isn't that racism wasn't a thing, it's that human races weren't defined as we define them t0day. R0mans certainly were a racist s0ciety, but they c0nsidered all mediteranian pe0ple, regardless 0f c0l0r, t0 be 0ne race, in c0mbat with the- shit I can't remember what's it's called. I keep wanting t0 say "ave0n" but I kn0w that's n0t right. What Brittania was called bef0re it was Brittania... fuck I can't remember but y0u kn0w the regi0n I'm talking ab0ut. Like England/Wales regi0n. And they didn't c0nsider the Celts and the Brits t0 be tw0 separate races, but the Celts and Brits c0nsidered /themselves/ t0 be tw0 different races, etc.
What y0u're talking ab0ut is the unified racist the0ry that puts pe0ple int0 th0se categ0ries 0f Asianic, Africanas, Germanic, Celtic, and New W0rld. Th0se races as a s0cial c0ntext are relatively new, but racism (as 0pp0sed t0 xen0ph0bia, the culture clash big0try) has been d0cumented in Gilgamesh, the earliest kn0wn written d0cument in human hist0ry.
S0 basically that ide0l0gy is g0nna change based 0n which s0ci0l0gist y0u talk t0. It's g0nna be real hard t0 be able t0 say where the 'r00ts 0f racism' started. But as far as this Eur0centric light t0 dark s0cial spectrum, it d0es have it's r00ts relatively recently. But that's n0t y0ur g00d 0ld fashi0ned family racism, that's y0ur newfangled p0st-chattle slavery s0ciety racism.
Racism cannot exist, or be defined independent of a system of racism that has been agreed upon, or practiced by a majority. In this respect, racism is like a fire. A fire cannot exist independent of a source of fuel; only in our dreams. Neither can racism exist between members of the same race, as the very notion is quite absurd. What you have described concerning the Celts and other Europeans was simply a matter of xenophobia, triablism, or nationalism.
There are only three fundamental races in the world: Negroid, Mongoloid, and Caucasian. The Europeans prior to the 15th century had very little contact with Negroid or Mongolid peoples. Consequently, there were no national debates concerning superiority, nor any official decrees announcing such superiority. As far as the Romans were concerned, they were superior to anyone who wasn't a Roman. Although they did have some contact with Ethiopians, overall, they had very little contact with sub-Saharan Africans. Consequently, race was not an issue in their daily life.
The papal bull Dum Diversas is the first known official decree that divided the races, and gave the European Christian the divine right to enslave, and dispossess non-Christians. This right naturally led to a sense of superiority. Unlike the Romans, who did not use race as a prerequisite for perpetual servitude, the Europeans of the mid 15th century, with the approval of the Catholic Church, for practical reasons focused primarily on sub-Saharan Africans who were dark skinned. Thus, we can clearly see the origin of racism in the 15th century, and how it has developed during the last 500 years.
But your funniest, and most erroneous comment is your remark about Gilgamesh.I have read the Epic of Gilgamesh, and I have even read the boring commentary that explains the translation. Nowhere in this ancient poem is their any reference to racism. There are some people around here from Idaho , and other backwater places, but I am not one of them.
The Epic of Gilgamesh is about a hero who wanders in search of a cure from a disease; a sickness of which he has been smitten after the death of his companion Enkidu. The hero fears that the disease will be fatal and longs to escape death. I appreciate your feedback blargablarga. To show my appreciation, I'm giving you a D+.
That's... there is n0 genetic c0mp0nent t0 race. Race is a s0cial c0nstruct. Literally n0thing in this makes any sense. If races were separated genetically, I, and 0ther interracial pe0ple, w0uld n0t exist. That's... simply n0t h0w that w0rks. I'm n0t a mule, I'm a human being with an in-tact genetic c0de that can pass 0nt0 my 0ffspring. The fact that y0u think that there are 0nly three fundamental races... is... weird? Like... I have n0 idea where y0u g0t that. I'm guessing y0u're c0nsidering Caucati0n f0lk t0 be white, even th0ugh that term refers t0 a specific gr0up fr0m ar0und the Caucus m0untain range, n0t all 0f wh0m /are/ white, negr0id t0 be black, even th0ugh the African c0ntinent has m0re genetic variati0n than any 0ther c0ntinent, th0ugh m0st 0f th0se f0lk tend t0 have a l0t 0f melanin, and M0ngal0id t0 refer t0 the M0ng0ls, wh0 are a specific racial min0rity living in S0utheast Asia, s0... m0st 0f Asia, m0st 0f the Mediterranean, and all 0f the Americas I guess... d0n't exist? In y0ur head?
I feel like y0u've never read Gilgimesh... d0 y0u kn0w what Enkidu is? Apparently y0u d0n't, despite qu0ting his name. Enkidu is a "wild man" wh0 is segregated and belittled by Gilgimesh's pe0ple, because 0f racism. He's c0nsidered a savage, akin t0 Bigf00t 0r a Sasquash despite being just as intelligent as the 0ther humans, he's c0nsidered a less ev0lved f0rm 0f humanity, als0 kn0wn as /exactly the same f0rm 0f racism used during the gen0cide 0f first w0rld pe0ples/, and is, in fact, used as an example 0f why it's /0k/ t0 murder natives like animals by the weirdest pe0ple like the guy wh0 wr0te the 0z series. Racism c0mes fr0m the strangest places s0mtimes.
Als0, the idea that pe0ple pri0r t0 the 15th century were racially segregated s0meh0w is c0mpletely ridicul0us. If that were true, there w0uld be n0 genetic link between say, a native African pers0n and a native Eur0pean pers0n, and they w0uld be unable t0 interbreed, because they didn't c0me fr0m a c0mm0n ancest0r. 0rganisms that c0me fr0m a c0mm0n ancest0r have been t0gether /since that ancest0r existed/. Y0u kn0w h0w gilag0p0d0se t0rtises can't breed with 0ther t0rtises because they were separated f0r s0 l0ng? And then l0nes0me Ge0rge died and n0w we're 0ut 0f Galapad0s T0rtises? Because they're extinct? That's because they actually /didn't/ have c0ntact with 0ther t0rtises and ev0lved t0 be t00 specialized t0 breed with them. If y0u were right, and that was the case, humans w0uldn't be able t0 interbreed.
N0t t0 menti0n... g0 take any art hist0ry class. G0 take any /hit0ry/ class. Y0u'll find pe0ple like the Grimaldi 0ccupying the British Isles in pre-language eras, the F0m0rians existing in the Arthurian age, Pliny the Elder traveling t0 Africa in the 20s AD, the Caled0nians in the Celtic Isles in the 500s ads... Like... what the actual fuck are y0u even talking ab0ut? This is /s0/ wr0ng that I n0 l0nger believe that y0u're a real pers0n. Y0u're a tr0ll. Very funny, y0u g0t me. I feel like a dumbass. I can't believe I went three p0sts deep bef0re I figured it 0ut. Well played, sir, well played.
I get the impression, from one of his hubs, that WrenchBiscuit also has a Christian bias.....and that colours his/her opinions.
Not saying that in itself is bad. Just need to be aware of how thinking can be skewed.
0h... wait is he 0ne 0f th0se pe0ple wh0 thinks that the w0rld is 0nly like 10,000 years 0ld and theref0re the arche0l0gical evidence 0f all th0se civilizati0ns is n0t... a real thing? Yeah, I've met th0se pe0ple, actually. I guess I sh0uldn't have jumped t0 the 'tr0ll' hyp0thesis. I mean I live d0wn the r0ad fr0m the creati0nist museum (c0nviently l0cated a few miles fr0m 0ne 0f the 0ldest arche0l0gical sites in N0rth America, 0ld in the sense that the artifacts can be dated 0lder than 0ther sites, n0t in the sense that the site itself has been 0pen the l0ngest). S0 that is my bad.
But... he's still factually inc0rrect. In case any0ne is c0nfused ab0ut that. The vast maj0rity 0f Christians d0n't adhear t0 the type 0f creati0nism that f0rces th0se kind 0f beliefs that are s0 0ut 0f sync with reality. I was raised in the Bible Belt and m0st pe0ple can still understand hist0ry class, at least well en0ugh t0 pass it. S0 I'd like pe0ple t0 kn0w that this is N0T the m0st c0mm0n belief am0ngst the Christian p0pulati0n. But it certainly d0es exist.
I suspect neither side, Creationist or Evolutionist, is 100% knowledgable of the Truth. Each of us sees things as we want to understand them.
What is an "Ev0luti0nist"?
Is that like... an ev0luti0nary bi0l0gist? 0r like... an ev0luti0nary psych0l0gist? I've never heard that bef0re. There's a t0n 0f disciplines that study the pr0cesses 0f ev0luti0n but I've never heard the term "Ev0luti0nist" bef0re.
Johnny, That's actually quite funny. In no uncertain terms I named the Catholic Church as being the root of racism, yet you comment that I might have a "Christian bias". How did you arrive at such a conclusion?
Ronnie, it was when I read your hub "Im Ok...You're stupid," and when I got down to the section, "Solve The Problem, Get Out of the Way," and you brought in Jesus....... I wondered if you had a religious agenda there.
You seem an all-round great guy, so maybe it was tongue-in-cheek. Right?
OK. I had to read through my ground breaking essay " I'm OK You're Stupid " to refresh my memory. Now I understand. No, my comment was not tongue in cheek, and here is why:
I consider Jesus from a pragmatic perspective as well as the metaphysical. Because of our limited sense perception, as well as other universal distortions, I have, over the years, become an idealist who also subscribes to relativism. I hesitate to say that I can know anything at all, except for the fact that I am involved in this experience. Because of universal distortions, I understand that even the empirical sciences are reduced to systems of "belief" and "faith".
However, because of my knowledge through acquaintance of human emotion, especially the emotion of love, the teachings of Jesus appeal to my idealistic nature. Even if I cannot comprehend the reality of an absolute, these teachings provide a moral absolute upon which humanity can build a solid foundation. A belief in God, or religion, is not necessary in order to benefit in the here and now from such teachings. Even if such an absolute is completely imaginary,the potential of these teachings as a positive force in our society should not be underestimated.
Although the teachings of Jesus have been studied and talked about for centuries, they have never truly been implemented on a wide scale.The recent refusal of many mainstream Christians to embrace so-called "illegal" immigrants, or to offer asylum to Syrian refugees, speaks volumes about the hypocrisy of mainstream Christianity here in the United States. The demonizing of Muslims only further illustrates that overall, Christianity in this country has little to do with Jesus, and more to do with I, Me, and Mine.
Thank you, Ronnie, for that very apt reply and your explanation. I displayed an anti-christian bias and that was unfair. (Not an "anti-christ" bias, I hasten to add. And using the lower case "c" for christ, because I am not now referring to the person as a god-head.)
I tend to agree with what you have written about distortions, hypocracy and selfishness; not the self knowledge which is essential if one is to understand fully the teachings of Jesus, whether he is in fact a really historical figure or just myth. That's my understanding for the time being; it can change as I find new knowledge, new awareness.
Recently I have been gifted with a book by the author, a very good friend, Malcolm Hollick. It is entitled "The Science of Oneness." It's available from Amazon, I am only slowly reading through it, being the sort of book I need to read a bit; digest it; reconsider my precepts; read more; and so on.
I can recommend it.
The Roman Catholic Church has very little to do with Christianity. The Bible refers to it as "the Great Whore of Babylon" or "mystery Babylon". They merely have a form of godliness, but deny the power thereof. I was born, baptized & raised Catholic having received all of the sacraments except Holy Orders. I had Extreme Unction twice and was married in the Catholic church to my wife who is now also a former-Catholic. That ritualistic religion is not Christian faith simply because they do not preach regeneration. The best things we got out of being raised Catholic is a basic understanding of Bible stories and memorizing the " Our Father"(the Lord's Prayer).
FYI Christian fundamentalists don't cut people's heads off however we sometimes wipe our butts with crinkled pages of the Koran.
Come out of Babylon!
God revealed Himself in one person only, His Son, Jesus of Nazareth.
It is not my problem that you are uneducated concerning the matter of racism. If you ever find the time, please read the poem and show me where it speaks of racism. It does not. Apparently someone told you a story and you believed it. Happens all the time. I find it interesting that many people who participate in online forums become so angry and hateful whenever someone disagrees with them, or points out the error in their thinking.
Your comment about the mule is also very telling. It reveals that you have an issue with your own personal history. In a world where many can define themselves, you apparently cannot, and so you attack anyone who might point out a fundamental, or a constant; things that are illusory in a greater sense, but necessary for us to function on a daily basis.
And it is you who created the strawman about the world being segregated prior to the 15th century. Please, if you are going to raise an argument, base your argument on something that is real, or at least something that can't be verified. Anyone can follow this thread and see that I said no such thing. You have only exposed your own intention. And what does "Pliny The Elder" have to do with racism. OK, I get it, you want us to know that you read books.
Finally, in attempting to denigrate me you have only illustrated that, not only do you not understand racism, but you also do not understand the definition of a troll. For instance:
You replied to my post. I had replied to Esoteric and you joined in. Esoteric disagreed with my original comment and so I had a purpose, which was to argue my point with Esoteric. What does this mean? First of all, a troll will usually come out of nowhere and join a conversation or debate. In this case, you are the person who came out of nowhere and joined the debate. The second thing is that I had a purpose. The purpose of a troll is not to defend an existing argument of his, or her own, but to interject a new argument in an active forum, simply for the sake of argument. You are the person who interjected a new argument. Finally, a troll will invariably resort to vitriol and name calling if the person they are trolling reduces them to the level of a subordinate with their superior intellect. Here we can clearly see that it was you who resorted to vitriol and name calling. Hopefully, you will learn from this experience.
N0w see, this makes me lean m0re t0ward Tr0ll again. It g0es 0ff 0n a tangent, pretends n0t t0 understand what was being said, c0ntradicts itself... Idk, J0nny, I think that maybe y0u just want t0 see the best in pe0ple. But generally real pe0ple, as 0pp0sed t0 tr0lls 0r b0ts, try t0 keep their 0wn st0ry straight. They d0n't make up s0mething like, "Racism 0nly existed after the 15th century" and then claim that s0me0ne else made s0mething like that up. They kn0w that pe0ple remember making up c0mpletely ridicul0us claims. I'm /pretty/ sure it's a tr0ll and at this p0int I'm n0t sure it's human. It might be a b0t that's just picking up keyw0rds and plugging them in.
I mean, n0 real pers0n c0uld n0t understand the c0ncept 0f a mule being a hybrid that d0esn't repr0duce. Pe0ple kn0w what livest0ck and animal husbandry are. Even pe0ple wh0 d0n't kn0w the three branches 0f g0vernment understand animal husbandry metaph0res because they're practical.
I'm pretty sure it's a b0t.
Edit: I need t0 edit this because I'm talking t0 a friend 0n Skype (am0ng 0ther things) right n0w and she p0inted 0ut that it /c0uld/ be a human wh0 didn't understand my metaph0re because apparently in s0me parts 0f the w0rld the w0rd "mule" has negative c0nn0tati0ns similar t0 the phrase "lap d0g" in my culture. S0me0ne wh0 is c0ntr0lled easily, like a "drug mule" is c0ntr0lled by a drug cartel. I wasn't aware 0f that when I made the anal0gy. Mules aren't negatively c0nn0tated here. I live in a rural area and mules are kn0wn f0r their w0rk ethic.
S0 let me explain it again.
A mule is a hybrid animal that has the genes 0f tw0 genetically distinct animals, a d0nkey and a h0rse. Because it's parents have different genes, like y0u claim human races d0, it cann0t pr0duce viable 0ffspring itself. Mules are b0rn sterile. They can't breed. If human races were genetically separate entities, I, and 0ther pe0ple wh0 have parents that are different races, c0uld n0t pr0duce 0ffspring. We w0uld have been b0rn sterile. H0wever, unlike a mule, multiracial humans CAN pr0duce viable 0ffspring. I was using the mule as an example, but I c0uld have used any hybrid animal with genetically dissimilar parents. I'm just fr0m a regi0n where many pe0ple still breed h0rses, d0nkies, and mules, s0 that was the animal that jumped t0 mind the fastest.
After she said that I realized that the negative c0nn0tati0n s0me pe0ple have d0es make sense. Mules are bred because they're as str0ng as a d0nkey, but tend t0 have the temperament 0f a w0rkh0rse, meaning that they are easier t0 c0ntr0l. I just didn't kn0w that c0nn0tati0n was a thing because in Ky we d0n't really have that kind 0f negative ass0ciati0n with mules. They're ad0rable hard w0rkers.
Edit: And als0, just in case this really is a human, Pliny the Elder is taught here in... bef0re we m0ved s0 kindergarten 0r first grade, as an illustraited st0ryb00k f0r children /because/ 0f the racism and inaccuracies. Kids l0ve shit like mantic0res and pe0ple with faces 0n their chests. 0f c0urse, y0ur teacher will explain that th0se aren't /real/ pe0ple, they were the pe0ple 0f the Batu tribe wh0 w0re giant shield masks, but Pliny, being a racist, believed that they were, 0nce again, "wild men" wh0 w0re these masks because they were disfigured, and n0t because they had a culture 0f art and cer0m0ny that was different fr0m his 0wn. Pliny's w0rks are.... like 90% seeing cultures he didn't understand and getting them wr0ng. I'm pretty sure y0u can get the children's b00k 0n Amaz0n, and I kn0w that his c0mplete Natural Hist0ry is available f0r free 0n Pr0ject Guitenburg, as is the Epic 0f Gilgamesh if y0u're actually interested in them. In fact, I kn0w Gilgimesh is available 0n Librev0x, s0 y0u d0n't even have t0 read it, y0u can have it read t0 y0u.
Edit: Here's the children's b00k my kindergarten had that I learned ab0ut Pliny fr0m: http://www.amazon.com/Inventorum-Natura … B000IOG70A
S0... yeah Big intellectual elitist I am, l0l.
But that d0es sh0w what a g00d idea it is t0 start a l0ve 0f hist0rical ficti0n early. Th0se illustrated classics have pr0bably led t0ns 0f kids t0 read the actual w0rks when they get 0lder. 0r they saw it 0n My Little P0ny where creatures fr0m his Natural Hist0ry als0 sh0w up. Because, y0u kn0w, this is material f0r children and n0t s0mething that makes s0me0ne intelligent.
Now that you've explained what a mule is, could you ask George to tell me about the rabbits again?
Yeah... it's either a b0t 0r there is a pers0n behind it, but they just check in every n0w and then.
I wanna say 0ne thing ab0ut that m0untain and then I'll hush because I already accidentally pissed 0ff all 0f England...
The creati0n 0f that m0untain br0ke a treaty, which is what this painting is illustrating, and s0mething that every0ne kn0ws. H0wever, I'm N0T sure that pe0ple kn0w that after 64 years 0f c0nsistant l0bbying by Lak0ta f0lk, the g0vernment FINALLY ap0l0gised and all0wed f0r a m0nument h0n0ring Crazy H0rse, a fam0us Lak0ta war her0 t0 be built as a kind 0f "s0rry we fucked y0u 0ver, have a statue" gesture.
H0wever, they failed t0 d0 any research int0 Crazy H0rse 0r his pe0ple's language, and theref0re c0mmissi0ned a statue 0f him m0re 0r less giving the finger t0 his 0wn tribe. He's p0inting in a way that is c0nsidered incredibly rude, t0 the /East/, in the 0pp0site directi0n 0f the sacred lands he's meant t0 represent. The entire thing was kind 0f a clusterfuck.
Just... I think that Means may have said it best in this interview: In a 2001 interview, the activist and actor Russell Means stated their objections to the memorial this way: "Imagine going to the holy land in Israel, whether you're a Christian or a Jew or a Muslim, and start carving up the mountain of Zion. It's an insult to our entire being." In a 1972 autobiography, Lame Deer, a Lakota Medicine Man had this to say: "The whole idea of making a beautiful wild mountain into a statue of him is a pollution of the landscape. It is against the spirit of Crazy Horse." To this day, the memorial remains controversial within the Native American community.
Edit: BTW, I d0n't think I made this clear, but what the tribe was l0bbying f0r, was their land t0 be returned fr0m the Federal Park's Service, because the m0untain is a place 0f cultural and religi0us significance that was never 0fficially signed 0ver, it was seized as part 0f a br0ken treaty. They weren't asking f0r a statue.
Bless, A possible confusion between being a Muslim and what ever this judgement could be described as.... An extremist does not represent all Muslims. Muslims implore peace just like everyone else. Please let's use our writing power for positives. There's enough slander in the world already ;-)
Well said, Spirit. I would say Islamic extremist only represent themselves and not mainstream Muslims in the same way Fundamentalist Christians represent only themselves and not mainstream Christianity, and the same analogy for Jesus and the Jews.
Thank you for weighing in. As I have said, I have known some Muslims for many years and they have been consistently good people. I doubt that will ever change because of the radical Islamic jihadists' actions.
As a Muslim, would you be willing to renounce Hamas?
Would you condemn terrorism?
Yay! https://swordattheready.wordpress.com/2 … -a-sudden/
A man of great integrity? Wow!
Thanx4 SwordattheReady. Seems most folks are still buying into the mainstream media fairy tales though. Some are intentionally turning a blind-eye to the truth. www.BirtherReport.com
It is to be expected, the blind eyes that is. Some are anti-christ and listen to their own master, unaware of the great deception, falsely believing they are free and there is no such thing as the devil. Its easy to discern such things when we have the manual. It comes as no surprise.
One thing, if Obama was "the antichrist" he would not be bowing to the Saudi king, would he? Wouldn't it be the other way around? Obama does refer to that evil man as "the Supreme Ruler". Bowing is a sign of loyalty. No Christian would ever bow to an evil king...But, some people defend that Obama is a Christian. Being disillusioned can be difficult without the will to be open minded.
Obama was bought with a price by a rich barbarian king.
It is easy to see Obama's fruits...and they are not good.
https://swordattheready.wordpress.com/2 … -a-sudden/
Very interesting. However I do believe Bathhouse Barry is the "man of lawlessness" our Bible predicts and Jesuit Pope Francis is the False Prophet. If I am somehow wrong about Kenyan-born BHO being the Antichrist that means someone even more evil is floating down the pike.
FYI - "Allah" is just another name for the devil.
Ok people, just because someone is Muslim, Christian, Jewish or whatever religion they wanna be, whatever race they want to be...doesn't matter, why is everyone here being so racist?
Seriously people...Or are you all trying to look forward to Trump being president? A guy who sits on his millions if not billions everyday, spending it on whatever, while there are people across the world who have no home, no jobs, no life, no food or water, and they have to live in the worst conditions, while Trump gets to hop on a private plane and has people cooking and cleaning for him all day long and he gets to do whatever the hell he wants. Trump is just a self-centered person who hates people of other races, and muslims and immigrants...Who is this person and who does he think he is? God? NO...Think of someone telling you that you're not allowed in this country because you have tan skin, black eyes and speak a different language...hell you would be upset too!! No one should blame Obama just because he says that he's Muslim, or he's black..That's not the way we should have our gov't be..Seriously people...Be logical
Despite his obscene wealth and abrasive style, Trump has quite a following. When you see how quickly so many line up behind him it tells you a lot about the American voter, doesn't it?
Yes it tells me a lot about the voters because they think that he's some rich person who is going to change the world and change the government to make it a better place. It tells me a lot about how racist people are around the world and the fact that they go and vote for someone who is even more racist and prejudice towards other races and religions. His wealth and his money and despite the fact that he gets on a private plane every now and then he is definitely not a good candidate for presidency, this is all for the attention of the media and the fact that he wants to get more money
What kind of an education do you have?
Cred, please don't encourage more of this, please.
I'll owe you one.
No, Sorry, I am at war with Trump and Cruz and will show no mercy. Or, I will give them as much of a break as you have given Obama and Clinton...
Nothing personal, of course, but I am tasked to destroy the political right and any sense of its credibility
and the poster does have a point, though......
Okey, nothing personal...I know how to do that.
That virtual hug coupon doesn't have an expiration date.
I like this meme!
Putting your head in the sand like an osterich can blind you, Colorfulone.
I'm waiting to find out more information on an Active Shooter at the San Diego Navy Medical Med Center.
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Americans are angry and frustrated. And in my opinion, that's a direct result of Obama's divisive leadership, policies of confrontation and conflict, refusal to work (with Congress) and build national consensus on tough issues, and his vehement tendency for authoritarian fiats. As for Obama, many of us hardly recognize his style of leadership, his values, and his disregard for ours. Obama, can take some degree of credit for Mr. Trump's domination of the polls, in Iowa, New Hampshire and nationally. He is good at creating vacuums...(credit due).
That is BS, just like Sarah Palin blaming Obama for her wayward, irresponsible brute of a son.
Cred, I don't know that Sarah said anything like that...I really don't want to discus her. But, if I think of her in a comedic way like Saturday Night Live, she's pretty entertaining, like Obama.
Nice way of trying to deflect the poor job Obama is doing in the Rainbow House though. (2 points)
Americans are angry and frustrated. And in my opinion, that's a direct result of Obama's divisive leadership, policies of confrontation and conflict, refusal to work (with Congress) and build national consensus on tough issues, and his vehement tendency for authoritarian fiats. As for Obama, many of us hardly recognize his style of leadership, his values, and his disregard for ours. Obama, can take some degree of credit for Mr. Trump's domination of the polls, in Iowa, New Hampshire and nationally. He is good at creating vacuums...(credit due).
No it isn't BS. But the Obama Administration is.
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
29% Strongly Approve of the way Obama is performing as president
38% Strongly Disapprove
Presidential Approval Index rating of -9
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ … cking_poll
Leaving out more pertinent information, are we? Those that approve of the president's job performance vs those that disapprove are about 50/50. So you have just made a non-point with your addition of the Tracking Poll data.
I used the latest figures...so what's that say about non-point?
-9 approval rate today for Obama. Not so hot!
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_ … cking_poll
And he(the Antichrist) will seek to change "times and laws".
Daniel 7:23-25
What kind of an education? Really I should be asking what kind of education do you have....education in prejudice and racism? You think just because someone is Muslim, or black, or their background is from some middle eastern or asian country they can't be president of the US???? Are you seriously that prejudice towards these people? Or do they have to be some rich, self-centered,racist person like Trump?
The simple fact an illegal-alien Moslem who was born in Kenya was even allowed on the Presidential Ballot confirms our votes mean nothing.
My vote mean something because I was instrumental in putting Mr. Obama on the ballot. You can bet that I am going to hold on to right to keep voting and making sure that it remains instrumental.
Mister is the proper way to address that non-president,
Actually, Trump creates 10's of thousands of jobs and is a very generous person with his money, mahsa setareh. It sounds like you listen to meainstream media and haven't heard the real truths about Mr. Trump.
Tan skin and brown eyes has nothing to do with being a Muslim, it is not a race. Check the facts and you will see for yourself. It is interesting to find out about Islam / Muslim.
Trump can see that there is a radical Islamic jihad terrorist problem in the US and world wide....we don't need anymore jihadists coming into the US committing mass shootings and killing Americans. Since Obama / adm. has not been able to properly vet Syrian refugees it is a matter of national security to temporarily halt more refugees coming in from Syria until the administration can do it a heck of a lot better job and put National security first.
A temporary ban on refugees until the government can figure out what's going.
Oh my.
It was TRUMP WHO SAID
1. 'They're not coming to this country if I'm president'
2. Calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States.
AND let me tell you..Donald Trump Is Not Used to Listening to Anybody Else, He proposed to build a gigantic wall along the U.S.-Mexico border to keep out illegal immigrants. Donald Trump has never been an elected official. He has never held elected office of any kind. He’s never had to broker political compromise, give political speeches or pour over political briefing notes. So why on earth, with no experience in politics, would people think he’d make a good president? Donald Trump has filed for bankruptcy protection four times. FOUR TIMES! The U.S. president is supposed to be an upright and moral person. They are supposed to be a God-fearing Christian and a devoted family man. Donald Trump’s personal life is by far the most questionable of any presidential candidate ever. And he is not religious, which is something most American voters want in their president. Trump has claimed he is a Presbyterian and that he attends Marble Collegiate Church in New York City.
OK NOT ONLY THESE BUT... Donald Trump famously sued comedian and political commentator Bill Maher for $5 million in 2013 after Maher jokingly offered to give $5 million to a charity if Trump could produce his birth certificate. Apparently, Donald Trump did not find this funny. Over the years, Donald Trump has literally sued anyone, or any organization, that has gotten in his way. He sued Palm Beach County for $100 million because they refused to redirect airplanes further away from one of Trump’s estates. He claimed in the lawsuit that air traffic was ruining the ambience near his home. We don't look at these things???? OR ARE WE JUST TRYING TO COVER UP AFTER HIM!!?
Let me continue...A really huge narcissist. He obviously thinks that he’s so important, all of humanity has to do something in order to win his respect. Like it’s nobody’s business, and perhaps a little too much. Donald is the type of person who will tell you how much something he owns costs before you even bother to ask.
He stated that the problems regarding national security was caused by illegal immigrants from Mexico, and he described them as drug traffickers and rapists. He ALSO said, “I will build a great, great wall, on our southern border, and I will make Mexico pay for that wall.”
How much more would you like me to continue?? Are we still living in a world of prejudice??? Wow...people...Just wow...
"Supposed to be a god-fearing Christian man......?" I don't thing so....
"They are supposed to be a God-fearing Christian and a devoted family man."
Not sure what country you are referring to, but it certainly isn't the United States.
But Trump did promise that "the wall' will be a thing of beauty, built totally by the Mexican government.
The man has always had money to burn, who ever thought he is this clever entrepreneur, his daddy just dropped a lot of money into his pocket at his passing. How many of us could get away with bankruptcy 4 times?
The qualifications for President of the United States and that of a rather boorish CEO are quite different.
He thinks that he can push his way around, but he will find that Congress and the Courts are not going to be easily intimidated...
In his last interview, (60 minutes) he astounds everybody with his wealth and that somehow his mere presense will intimidate China, North Korea and Russia to toe our line, this guy with NO political experience, whatsoever.
Trump has yet to learn, that some things are simply not for sale.
I think that this is just a bit arrogant on his part.
I wish that he would pick Sarah Palin as a running mate, it would be the greatest comedy duo since Burns and Allen!!
Thank you at least there's a little sense of logic here... It's not like the guy worked his ass off every day to make his money. His rich daddy just as stated int he above comment pretty much dropped money in his pocket like it's nothing and now here he sits with a Net Worth of 4 BILLION USD!! The only way he has push his way around people is the fact that he thinks just because he's rich and can sue every single person on this planet for the most stupidest things possible...and of course because of attention.
ARMAGEDDON Count Down! January 27th 2016
Al Gore predicted that because of Global Warming the earth would burn up in 10 years. We only have till tomorrow. I guess this is good-bye?
Recent Snow on East Coast.
What a team!
Scientists declare UN Climate Summit goals irrational based on nonsense leading US down a false path
http://www.climatedepot.com/2015/11/19/ … alse-path/ What's Up With That?
State of the Climate: 10 years after Al Gore declared a ‘planetary emergency’ – top 10 reasons Gore was wrong.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/01/25/s … was-wrong/
Um, I don't know whether you know this or not. But, Al Gore claimed to have invented the internet. I don't think anyone took anything he had to say seriously after that.
Obama is all for it...its a racket. They just changed the term “global warming” to “climate change" because the term "global warming" wasn't working. Its ridiculous how these new terms get created to push the same old agenda of "global cooling" and "global warming".
Obama says, "there is no greater threat" then climate change. The BS factor is 100% in line with Al Gore's BS.
We have radical Islamic jihadists that want to blow us up or shoot us.
Hmm, but that must not be important.
ADDED: Al Gore took the initiative in the creation of the internet as a congressman because he recognized its importance and so he promoted and supported its development. He didn't say he created the internet.
Gore NEVER said that. He said his leadership in providing funding HELPED build the Internet.
Clearly, Colorfulone, you don't know a thing about global warming, climate change, or whatever; and what the cause or symptoms are of a climate getting out of control. The weather changes that are more than three standard deviations from the norm that we have been experience for the last decade or more is a symptom.
Gore DIDN"T say what you misrepresented, he said "And politicians and corporations have been ignoring the issue for decades, to the point that unless drastic measures to reduce greenhouse gases are taken within the next 10 years, the world will reach a point of no return, Gore said."
DID YOU NOTICE the words "unless drastic measures ... are taken" and "point of no return", obviously you didn't. The FACTS ARE, measures have been taken which has pushed off the "point of no return" for a period of time. Gore was essentially right, wasn't he.
In any debate about President Obama's effectiveness as President, based upon honest appraisal of facts, I have no problem with-- if it's done in an intelligent, knowledgable, respectful way. He must stand to be fairly judged like any other person.
My quarrel is with both hypocritical and fowl-languaged people who pretend they are christian, ethical and fair-minded when they are nothing of the sort.
They turn me away from anything in the United States that claims to be christian or republican. Both terms represent, for me, voices that are selfish, unloving and untrustworthy.
To bad forums don't have "Likes"; if it did, I would click it.
And if it had 'dislikes' you and the other "tolerant" people would gang up on anybody who sounds the alarm "Kenyan-born Obama is the Antichrist". You & your kind are the name-callers, name-caller.
If I heard the "alarm" coming from a reasonable voice, from a reasonable, non-vindictive person, who was willing to speak with respect and welcome intelligent discussion, then I might be willing to heed that alarm.
As it is, I have no respect for your opinion, Sgt, because of the way you have presented your point of view. Change that, prove yourself a person who can give respect where it's due, and I might, just might (going by past observation) listen to the alarm.
I'm just the messenger here people, a still small voice in the wilderness sounding the alarm that Obama is the Antichrist and Pope Francis is his False Prophet. If I don't warn you people I will be held accountable and your blood will be on my hands.
Exactly! But, some of them yell "hypocrite"? Pft!
Pop Francis welcomed Iranian president Hassan Rouhani to promote peace. (tongue in cheek) Yeah, the same evil king Obama bowed to.
I will be shaking my head at this one until the end comes.
https://www.facebook.com/FRANCE24.Engli … /?fref=nf.
I'm glad that you are not confused, Sgt.
People are!
I also find pathetic and unintelligent those who need to shout. Presumably this is trying to drown their own inner voice. "Shouting" here in HubPages is the use of big upper-case, brightly coloured type face.....quite rude really and anything but genuine 2-way discussion.
If you are hearing shouting, maybe you need to stop shouting. I hear no one shout unintelligently from where I stand. Is your stereo too loud? Turn it down.
SHOUTING! ... Is so gay! ... LOUD! ... colorful! ... UNINTELLIGENT!
Listen to Islamic radicals shouting in Paris...wrecking vehicles, blocking highways, burning tires on the freeway. I DON"T WANT IT IN AMERICA! (sorry I raised my fonts)
https://www.facebook.com/RadioSoleil/vi … 8/?fref=nf
RINO traitor Senate Majority Leader McConnell fast tracks a bill in the Senate giving Obama more power to declare Martial Law.
http://dailyinsidernews.com/2016/01/ale … gh-senate/
McConnell, looks like chicken-little. I don't even want to know what sick kind of dirt Obama has on him. -- Wake up people!
"God always uses imperfect people in imperfect situations to accomplish his perfect will. No one is unusable by God." ~ Pastor Rick Warren
Oh! Thank "god" for that!
From the position of imperfect sexuality, imperfect intellect, imperfect old body, imperfect sense of humour, I just gotta be useful somewhere along the line.
Thanks so much for putting mind at rest, Susie!
And, btw, I would never follow the dictates or the advice of someone who is fanatical in his rejection of another person's sexuality, because it is simply none of his business. And the fanatical "church" that he leads is also right off my list of acceptance.
So, you can take all of that hypocracy, all of that judgmental area of American life and throw it to the wind as far as I am concerned.
Thanks for thinking of me, but no thanks.
My heart is heavy. Levoy Finicum was Shot and murdered in Cold blood in Burns Oregon by the FBI and State Law enforcement. He had his hands up and was shot 3 Times. This Man Is one of the best Patriots, Husband, Father, Grandfather, friend and Neighbor, that this world will ever know.
Read more: http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/just … z3yZ7FXER5
The Feds allow chaos, looting, and widespread destruction with protesters in Ferguson and Baltimore and elsewhere... Yet they gun down a salt of the earth rancher protesting the arrests of his fellow ranchers and the bully tactics of Fed DOI on grazing land they've been using for years. Despicable and ironic that Obama's been prepping his Homeland Security private army and massive containment facilities for Martial Law since first elected and now he's creating a scenario for him to use it by killing a segment of American citizens who will not take this lying down! This is a horrible development that will test the real mettle and integrity of our congress, judicial system, our people and perhaps jolt awake a sleeping giant that is America! If you investigate the behind the scenes conflict of interest with Harry Reid and Hillary Clinton in those Western lands and follow the money you will stop voting the Fed the absolute, corrupt power they are attempting to exercise! Martial law, in effect, has begun in the West... and it's unconstitutional, wrong and a real threat to us all! Wake up America!
Clinton Foundation took massive payoffs, promised Hammond Ranch and other publicly owned lands to Russians along with one-fifth of our uranium ore
http://www.dcclothesline.com/2016/01/23 … ium-ore-2/
Hammond County is being controlled by the government.
R.I.P. Levoy Finicum (he was white so there is no outcry)
White Lives Matter, too! #WhiteLivesMatter
Video of the FBI ambush and murder of LaVoy. My heart is breaking.
It WAS an abmush. They gunned him down! Clearly a planned ambush on their vehicle. LaVoys hands were up; he was not going for any gun. He was just trying to balance himself in the deep snow.
YouTube Ariel Video: Joint FBI and OSP Operation 01/26/2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAGxDWKrjPQ
Watch it again. His hands were NOT up; they were at about waist level and moving. Maybe balancing himself, maybe going for a gun; from the grainy photo it is impossible to tell.
But yes, the truck was "ambushed" if you call stopping it "ambushing" it. It was even planned...but what else would you expect? That no one was watching them come and go and it was just a random traffic stop?
Worse for him, better for FBI, it looks to me like his hands were up, then he brought them down and in to his waist, then turned away for a moment before he was killed.
Yeah the agent said "Blink if you want me to kill you!"
That's what I saw, too. All while walking away from the cops, I'm sure in violation of their orders.
Not smart, not when you've advertised that you are armed and will ignore law enforcement.
Here is a short close up video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUzzrjB … e=youtu.be
He was being shot to death. He was shot three times? The last bullet took him down. Anyone would have a hard time keeping their hands above their head after being shot. Reflexes are strong. That is what I see.
No one went to see if he was still alive until 10 minutes later according to an eye witness. On the first video link I posted, it showed that the gunmen moved away from LaVoy and left him there to die.
This is breaking my heart. I don't have words to describe how I feel.
I think you're using imagination more than eyes. There was one shot fired, which put him down. And it was fired after he reached for his waist.
Nor would I expect a group of cops to walk up to a truck full of rogue, gun toting ranchers wanting notoriety simply to check on a corpse. That would be foolish in the extreme and I'd certainly hope that our FBI agents are smarter than that.
Yes, it's sad that we actually have morons in this country that think the proper way to protest their tax bill is to get a bunch of guns together and take over public buildings. There was, and always will be, a bill to pay for being stupid and they paid it.
The only thing dumber than that are the people who actually believe it happened.
Oh, I'm pretty sure a man was shot, and even killed. Or do you have convincing evidence it's all a sham? Something beyond hatred of authority, that is? Why, the family has already released the expected statement that they don't think he was doing anything wrong - surely that's a good sign he's really dead?
All that I have checked so far to see if it happened or not is this FBI video where several errors in the video are pointed out ... and that the title of the story should be "Believe me I'm f_____g lying".
3:07: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jnC5t9hbKc
WB, might be right. IDK what to think. Either way its heart breaking.
Perhaps "Uranium & Death" ... it kind of reminds me of "Taxes & Death".
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I wonder why the FBI was there at all. It wasn't a bank robbery, terrorism or a serious federal felony. Shouldn't it have been the US Marshals?
I haven't heard a peep out of Obama. His silence is the same as approval. The media is down playing this as well, in fact the media is still trying to dress this up as a "crack down on terrorist."
Duh, the FBI was there because it was federal lands being violated. They had every right to arrest those involved in an illegal occupation of federal property.
The Hammond’s had a upper grazing permit that was arbitrarily (without cause) revoked by the BLM & FWS. You could be right under Martial Law or Sharia Law but how about Common Law.
Before all that were the road & water disputes. etc.
This is a lot to read, and I haven't gotten half way. Interesting story.
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/201 … nt-page-1/
Do you have any proof other than your blind acceptance of authority?
Let's look at the facts:
• Less than a month ago (at this point I believe it's been 28 days) armed men hijacked a federal building and threatened violence against anyone who tried to remove them.
• During this illegal occupation protesters have made several trips to and from Burns Oregon which is 30 miles from the wildlife refuge. During these trips they conversed with local law enforcement, picked up supplies, etc..
Knowing that they had drawn a line in the sand, not only as challenge to local law enforcemet, but also the FBI, can we really believe that these men would feel comfortable making the 60 mile round trip to Burns on more than one occasion? No, we cannot! Sorry folks, armed terrorists, extremists, cowboys, whatever you want to call them, who seize a federal building and threaten government officials with violence simply don't behave in such a cavalier fashion. I can hardly believe that white privelege extends to this degree.
The alleged shooting of LaVoy Finicum reads like a poorly written Hollywood script. It has been reported that as many as 120 rounds were fired at the truck by trained shooters using state of the art weaponry. But if this were true, all of the occupants should be dead, as this was not an armored vehicle. And it was very convenient for the Lonesome Cowboy to be outside of the truck where the whole world could see him being gunned down.
After the alleged shooting one report stated "...Meantime, the status of those at the refuge was unclear early Wednesday as the FBI and Oregon State Police set up the checkpoints.The FBI was negotiating into the night for the remaining occupiers to leave. Several were allowed to leave without arrest..."
Really? After hijacking federal property and threatening violence against government officials, we can all just go home now? Yes, it is possible that this is all true, but very unlikely. This appears to be a poorly executed government PsyOps reminiscent of the alleged takedown of Bin Laden, which by the way, also never happened. Do you prefer your potatoes baked or fried?
Why is it unlikely? The protesters of the "occupy" variety camped in a park near me for months, even plugging in their equipment to a government building and stealing power. And finally "just went home" after destroying the park to the tune of tens of thousands of dollars. Nothing done, even after the rape one night they were there.
Yeah, protesting has become big business as idiots know that the media attention will come when they interfere and disrupt enough lives. And that very little, if anything, is ever done. The only difference this time was that they were armed, made a big point of it, and (apparently) the FBI felt one was grabbing for a weapon (which is probably true - he DID have a gun in the pocket he reached for.).
We now have cell phone footage and audio from inside the truck of LaVoy Finicum when he was gunned down, supposedly by FBI. Gangster style!
There are two videos.
http://www.infowars.com/shock-cell-phon … e-vehicle/
FBI agents under investigation for possible misconduct in LaVoy Finicum shooting
http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-stando … s_und.html
Sorry, I saw it on the news. The FBI has not admitted shooting at all, so you can't blame them. Gangster style would be a shot to the head as an assassination, not 3 bullets to the body in response to reaching for a gun. And he WAS reaching for the pocket containing a loaded 9MM.
Any time there is a cop shooting there is an investigation. This isn't newsworthy, or are you implying there WAS misconduct - that there is never such an investigation unless the outcome is pre-ordained?
The FBI isn't going to admit to anything damaging. BUT! A bullet found in LaVoy's truck was traced to elite FBI team. That's breaking news.
I watched the videos closely before. We didn't see things the same then. I don't believe he was going for a gun in a pocket, because LaVoy didn't conceal when he carried. I think that's what 'they' want people to believe. Lots of cover-up in my opinion.
Trump actually had called out the BLM on their abuses in January calling them a directorial agency. That's something I hadn't noticed before. "Trump: BLM 'Damaging Economy', Impediment To Growth"
The United States of America is a land of laws, and Americans value the rule of law above all. Why, then, has our Congress allowed the president and the executive branch to take on near-dictatorial power?How is it the we have a president who will not enforce some laws and who encourages faceless, nameless bureaucrats to manage public lands as if the millions of acres were owned by agencies such as the Bureau of Land Management and the Department of Energy?
That says a lot of the Obama Administration! Its true!
Clinton Foundation took massive payoffs, promised Hammond Ranch and other publicly owned lands to Russians along with one-fifth of our uranium ore
https://www.intellihub.com/clinton-foun … ds-russia/
Clinton Crime Family: https://www.intellihub.com/clinton-fami … s-exposed/
Ancient Native American Proverb ~ "Its a good day to die."
You should look at it again, Colorfulone. At 09:27:11 DeVoy starts bringing his hands to his waist, no indication of him being shot. Nor was there any indication in the next 6 seconds when he was shot at 09:33:02.
There was no reason DeVoy should be moving around at all; instead he spends six long seconds with his hands doing something at his waist, ignoring the two FBI agents orders.
He got what he deserved.
The news reported tonight that there was a handgun (forget what kind) in that pocket he was reaching towards. Yet we see so many that would have the "cops" wait until shot at before stopping the action.
Yes, he got what he deserved, and what he reportedly wanted.
Except that LaVoy was right handed.
I just learned that today and researched photos.
What? Right handed people are physically incapable of holding a gun? I'm not following this at all.
That's not what its about anyway, wilderness. In 2015 the New York Times did an article about the sale of Uranium One (a Canadian owned mining co.) to the Russians. UO had the uranium mining rights on the Bundy and Hammond ranches. In order for the sale to go through there had to be a federal agent that signed off on the deal, that was Hillary Clinton who was then Secretary of State. SO! Now, Putin owns Uranium One and 20% or whatever of the US uranium?
For some reason the NYT stopped investigating the story. Money talks?
Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal
* http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/ca … .html?_r=1
Remember, Ethel Rosenberg, who was convicted and executed for selling nuclear secrets to the Soviets? Could Hillary be a modern day Rosenberg? Why did she have a unsecured private server with top secret and even more sensitive US government intelligence in her home...that she had the server wiped? And, she is under an FBI investigation (going nowhere)?
Clinton Is Selling Uranium From Bundy and Hammond Ranches to Russians to Fund Presidential Campaign
* http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2016/ … -campaign/
The video by "dutchsinse" (on the link above) has some interesting investigative work. I saw that maybe a month ago, which got me to digging into what has been going on there.
As far as the Bundy and Hammond ranches go, I do not trust media, BLM or the FBI. Certainly, I do not trust the underhanded practices of the Clinton's (Bush's) or the present administration to be honest about anything.
Conspiracy?
ADDED:
EVIDENCE: IS HILLARY CLINTON BEHIND BLM LAND GRAB, TO SELL URANIUM TO RUSSIA?
* http://www.infowars.com/evidence-is-hil … to-russia/
The New York Times story goes on to report how leaders of the Canadian mining industry made several charitable donations to the various “endeavors of former President Bill Clinton and his family,” including a total of $31.3 million from mining financier Frank Giustra, and then sold the Russians a company later dubbed Uranium One. As the New York Times pointed, the sale of Uranium One to Putin required State Department approval, because uranium is considered a strategic asset – and then-Secretary Clinton gave it.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2016/01/oregon-shoot … ipSjVPe.99
I just read an update from Franklin Graham on Facebook, he said, "Yesterday is another example that the importance of obeying authority applies to all, whether you’re white, black, Hispanic—race doesn’t matter. I was outside Burns, Oregon, in the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge most of the day with the FBI – Federal Bureau of Investigation and others trying to help convince the last armed hold-outs in the #Oregonstandoff to obey the authorities and surrender. I had been asked by the FBI to help in the negotiation process and had been talking with the hold-outs by phone every day for about a week, encouraging them to do the right thing. We continually pleaded with them to just listen and do what they were told. At the end of the day, I can’t tell you how thankful I was that Jeff Banta, Sean and Sandy Anderson, and David Fry did just that and came out safely. They did the right thing by surrendering and coming out with their hands up. We’ve seen too many unnecessary shootings in this country. I believe that some of these, though not all, could be avoided if people would only listen and obey law enforcement.
In this Oregon case, I know firsthand that law enforcement from all levels—local, state, and federal—worked tirelessly to do all that they could to save the lives of these individuals. When the last remaining hold-out, David Fry, finally surrendered, the FBI negotiators and the entire team were absolutely overjoyed that no one had been harmed and that this situation had come to a peaceful resolution. I want to go on record thanking them for a job well done."
I'm so glad he was there to help. Thank God!
Cold Blooded
The Feds are the only ones who shot down...a living, breathing, bleeding, human being. Or, did they?
Traveling at the speed the truck was going with a road block around a corner, there was no way to stop in time...the snow bank was the best option. LaVoy was gunned down from my perspective and eyewitnesses say he was unarmed. He open carried on his right hip in a holster. This does seem like other false flag events where the media comes out with conflicting stories so everyone is confused and no one really knows all the real facts except for the orchestraters and the victims of a cover up as I see it.
Its easy to see that the video the FBI says is unedited is heavily edited because of the breaks and jumps in the video. I would be a fool to believe anything else they say.
Hillary Clinton sold the rights to the URANIUM! $$$
Friends of Liberty should be interested in the truth.
Although I realize you won't accept any information that doesn't play into your heavily biased opinion, that's ridiculous. There was no deviation in the speed of the vehicle. He had no intention of stopping. It appears that he was hoping to have enough forward momentum to go around the blockade through the snow.
Feel sorry for the guy, of course. But, accept that his actions are the reason for his death.
You definitely have a loose grasp, if not a complete handle, on the out of control Federal government we are dealing with under Kenyan-born Obama the man-of-lawlessness. I hate Big Brother.
America fought an entire war to stop Democratic Socialism.
Nazis were Democratic Socialists.
Awkward moments in America...
The days when wrong is right, and right is wrong.
My earnest concern is for our children and grandchildren.
Again, your knowledge of political theory haunts you. The definition of Democratic Socialism is:
Democratic socialism is a political ideology advocating a democratic political system alongside a socialist economic system, involving a combination of political democracy with social ownership of the means of production.
Even Bernie Sander who says he is a democratic socialist, isn't. Why, because he doesn't support the idea of "social ownership of the means of production". And clearly neither does President Obama, so your should only show Lenin and Hitler. Including Obama makes it a lie.
DNC chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz cannot explain the difference between modern Democrats and Socialists, ... but you can?
Bernie says he is a Democratic Socialist, ... but you say he is lying?
Hillary pretends she isn't but agrees with Bernie's policies.
"They" ... is for Hillary and Bernie.
They support full on socialized medicine. (So, does Trump?)
They support amnesty for 12 million illegal people in the US. (So does Rubio for that matter)
They support ignoring and not admitting who we are fighting.
Hillary, Bernie and Obama won't even say "Islamic radical terrorism" and are even less serious about defeating it. They are far out of the mainstream, and out of touch with the American people. But...
You got the numbers wrong on the amnesty issue. All of the candidates support amnesty for the 62.06% (197,870,516) white Euro-Americans who have yet to apply and qualify for a green card
Could you provide a link to support your post, WB?
I would be interested and reading the material. Ty
Because I don't understand it in relation...
Who is that handsome fellow?
ADDED: never mind...
"Whites (including Hispanics who identified as White) constitute the majority, with a total of about 246,660,710, or 77.35% of the population as of 2014. Non-Hispanic Whites totaled about 197,870,516, or 62.06% of the U.S. population." -- Wikipedia
That has no relation to my post. Here I thought you were contributing something to further my education.
Here I have provided an excerpt from the Nican Tlaca proclamation "About Illegals" as well as the link to the original complete article.
"...We are the Canadian "First Nation" people. We are the "Native Americans". We are the Indigenous people of Mexico and "Central America". We are, in our unity, the collective owners of this continent. We recognize no European "settler" (squatter-invader) borders on our continent. We recognize no borders that have been set by European colonizers in the last 500 years ..."
http://www.mexica-movement.org/illegali … eality.htm
P.S. The man in the picture is the son of Cochise.
It has everything to do with your post. You commented concerning the candidates " ...They support amnesty for 12 million illegal people in the US...". Which of course is not correct, unless one adopts a racist, Eurocentric view of the world. In truth, every white Euro-American on this continent is more "illegal" than the so-called Hispanics, or Latino's coming across the border. Why? Because there is no such thing as a Latino or Hispanic. These terms are part and parcel of a system of genocide.
These are people of primarily Indigenous heritage whose ancestors were raped and brutalized by the Spaniards . Consequently a majority speak Spanish. However they are more Indigenous to this continent than any European, and as such, they have the right to go wherever they please, in spite of the imaginary colonialist borders. Anyone who supports amnesty is on the right track. Perhaps they understand that over 60% of the Euro-American population is here "illegally" as well. But regardless of what the candidates think, or whatever their motivations, your number of 12 million is only a racist fiction.
It does become fascinating how you ignore the law and try to impose your own version and philosophy onto everyone on the continent. I, for instance, was born here and therefore, under the law, am a citizen. Exactly as the Indians hundreds of years ago were, and my ancestors immigrated here (and/or fought for their place here) exactly as the ancestors of the Indians of 1492 did. Pretending that the law of the land is illegal is foolish in the extreme as every person in the country is subject to it, and it was enacted quite legally.
Nor does racism enter into the question at all as the working terminology is "illegal people" or "illegal aliens" - nothing at all to do with race.
You commented in reference to the law " ... it was enacted quite legally....". According to who ? Legally at the point of a gun? Legally because might makes right? You deny truth because the truth does not paint such a favorable picture of the American Nightmare. Let the world marvel at this great teaching:
"The Earth was not created by a man. Most will agree that this is true. Consequently, a man cannot claim exclusive ownership of that which he himself has not created."
There has always been enough room on this continent for the European and the First Nations. But the greedy European Colonialists could not be content with sharing the wealth and the resources. They had to have it all. And this is the mindset that has delivered us here to where we now stand. Let there be no misunderstanding: If the European must define the progeny of the First Nations as "illegals" in their own land, then the European must be prepared to be seen in a similar light. That is the point.
According to the people that lived here for hundreds of years. Who did YOU think formed the constitution - Chinese?
"Consequently, a man cannot claim exclusive ownership of that which he himself has not created."
Don't be foolish - I didn't create my car, either, but claim exclusive ownership of it. As I do with the large majority of the things I am in possession of.
"There has always been enough room on this continent for the European and the First Nations."
Don't be foolish; the Indians way of life (if that's what "first nations" means) requires vast amounts of land, while the Europeans did not. Hunter/gatherer cultures always do. When the population of European descent grew to something approximating that of the Indians and major conflict had to happen as there was insufficient land for both ways of life.
"If the European must define the progeny of the First Nations as "illegals" in their own land"
Where does this come from? That illegal aliens (citizens of a foreign country) take up residence illegally in the US means that all Indians are illegal as well? A strange notion indeed, and not supported by anyone anywhere. Any more than the quaint notion that Indians own all the land in the US when land ownership was never a part of their culture.
Where do you get your history, Wilderness? Not from books apparently. The Native Americans are just that, native ... they are descendants of those who traveled to an empty land tens of thousands of years ago; the Europeans cannot claim the same rights to the land you and I live in today. The fact is undeniable, the Europeans (and a few Russians) invaded what is now America and took the land, all of it, by force.
I agree Native Americans probably don't have the concept of "property rights" in the English common law sense, but then the peoples who owned this land first didn't give a flip about English common law, nor should they.
To the victor go the spoils, unless Palestinians are the losers.
You are comparing the basic necessities of life: air, land, food, and water, to an automobile, an air conditioner, or an original copy of the LP, "Johnny Cash Live At Folsom Prison". This aptly illustrates the reason you cannot seem to understand the Second Amendment. But because of the censorship here I am not at at liberty to identify the reason, nor would I be so cruel even if I were living in a free society. As far as your misunderstanding of the historical record is concerned, I can only say that I'm glad it wasn't me.
colorfulone ~~~ I'm not sure how WRONG a comment could possibly be but this one of yours is certainly in the running for 1st place within the most "INACCURATELY FALSE" category ~ Perhaps you watch way TOO much FOX Loser Snooze Channel ~ ~ I really don't know where to begin but here goes :
*DWS has no problem EXPLAINING D & S ~
*"SOCIALISM" Essentially Means "Of the Community" where everyone has a vested interest versus the Failed "Free Market Capitalistic EXPERIMENT" which is ongoing until ultimately Terminated by "We the People" ~ "Capitalism" means a tiny select few Greed DRIVEN individuals CONTROL Everything including Human Life, whereas "Socialism" adopts the "COMMUNITY" aspect ~
* TRUMP to my knowledge, has never advocated socialized medicine although he has PLEDGED to Terminate Health Insurance for approximately 18 MILLION Americans as have just about ALL other CONservative Republican Politicians ~
* TRUMP has rejected the idea of AMNESTY in favor of "Tracking DOWN, Detaining, & DEPORTING" undocumented Immigrants which include Mexicans, Cubans, Puerta Ricans, African Americans, Germans, Swedes, Irish, French, Asians etc etc etc ~ Moreover, he has pledged to build a GIGANTIC Spectacular Wall as Partitian between the U.S & Mexico ~ I'll comment further on this "FANTASTICAL" idea at a later date ~
* Just because President Obama chooses NOT to Adopt the Retarded Republican MANTRA of "Islamic Radical Terrorism" dose NOT mean he is NOT doing everything possible to PROTECT this Country, and that's an irrefutable FACT ~
Why does Obama, Hillary and Bernie ignore the fact that Islamic extremists are radical terrorist?
Obama has said on several occasions that America is not a Christian nation. However, the overwhelming evidence to that is completely contrary. But, he believes that spreading his deceptive message needs to be heard through-out the world. It is false.
Islamic extremists have said that they, "want the flag of Islam to fly over the White House.”
Obama's whole life has been influenced by Islam. His mother was married to a Muslim. His father was a Muslim. She married a man from Indonesia who was raised in Indonesia and attended Islamic schools. One could assume she was a Muslim.
Obama's whole life experiences have been influenced by Islam. That is all he knows, Islam. He has given a pass to Islam. Obama refuses to understand the pure evil but rather accepts it.
With Bernie and Hillary we would have more of the same...
What is Islamic Socialism? ... Marxism...Communism...
Why can't DNC chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz explain the difference between modern Democrats and Socialists?
***** Hitler and Islam... http://www.billionbibles.org/sharia/hit … rhood.html
Muslim Brotherhood was founded in Egypt in 1928 by a 22-year old Muslim named Hassan al-Banna, who admired Adolf Hitler's hatred of the Jews and persistently wrote to Hitler to express his admiration for Hitler, as well as his desire for collaboration with Hitler's Nazi Party.
In America we have Islamic terrorists kill people in the name of Allah. Funny thing is that the mainstream media's reaction is to fret that Muslims might be offended or even harmed by the backlash. So! They cover for them just like the Obama Administration.
What? You mean there aren't Methodists & Baptists screaming "Death to America" while cutting off a head? Amish terrorists?
The media is making a lot of noise today about President Obama visiting a mosque in an attempt to recast what he said was “a warped image of Islam.” The foundations of this nation have nothing to do with Islam, but everything to do with the Church of Jesus Christ. Islam cannot save anyone from hell or open the gates of heaven. Only One can do that—Jesus Christ, the Son of God who paid the debt of sin for all mankind by giving His life as a sacrifice on Calvary’s cross where he suffered and died for our sins, took our sins to the grave, and on the third day God raised Him triumphantly to life. He’s alive today. Muhammad is dead. I worship a risen Lord! Islam can’t compete with that.
~ Franklin Graham's comments. I agree 100%.
Franklin Graham, "disturbing comment from Franklin Graham, ..... rhetoric seems to be growing more extreme and whose behavior seems to be growing more erratic." ("The Atlantic")
How on earth can you equate the words of that man with the Love which you claim was in that man Jesus? That same Graham would damn me to hell as he would anyone of any other faith but his version of Christianity.
Get your head out of the sand, Colorfulone.
Yes, Islamic extremists are found to be terrorists, but not all adherents to Islam are 'extremists'. Otherwise, would have had a lot more trouble with 'jihad' than we have had.
America is a nation that acknowledges the freedom of religion, it is only a Christian nation based on the fact that that constitutes the majority of those of religious faith here. That must be the premise we follow. All other religions are rendened null and void.
As usual, you continue to pass on misinformation. It is quite transparent, you know...
This hypocritical meme fits so well. Huh? That's how it is Cred.
For the transparent and misinformed religious bigots.
Religions are religions. They are based on works.
A relationship with God in Christ is a spiritual relationship with God.
Its a free gift that doesn't need to be earned.
Nice to see you have cleared your busy schedule and took the time to visit us in the forums again, Cred. ~ Cheers!
Oh Islamic Society of Baltimore and Obama. Allow me to count those hypocrisies...while I connect the dots for you. --- Remember 9/11?
Nice to be back, it is all beautiful and deep, regardless of the source. It is just too bad that more of us don't live by the message rather than bicker over the messenger.
Why have you changed how you feel? Not that "sympathy" is the best thing to have, so I am glad for you that you changed. Three weeks ago you said, "They seem to be fairly peaceful people who begrudge the bullying of the Forestry and Wildlife Service; at their wit's end from watching as a family was being targeted by this branch of the federal government which doesn't appear to believe ordinary citizens have the right to enjoy the use of their own property. I sympathize with them."
On your thread, "Armed Militia Make Stand in Oregon"
http://hubpages.com/politics/forum/1346 … -in-oregon
Empathy is better to have...and I hope you do have empathy, because you really did seem to be trying to understand how the "family" felt on your thread then. I even picked up a wee-bit of a sense of compassion by you, when I felt more hardliner on the stand. Its an emotional roller coaster. ... I was reduced to a puddle of grief after the shock of the shooting (?) wore off a little. But, I am dealing with life and death issues within my own family and am feeling sensitive and vulnerable, and would not want sympathy. The damn had to break.
Or, perhaps your aim was that you had "No sympathy here" for me because I said, "My heart is heavy" and that "my heart is breaking"? Which would be more understandable for me coming from someone as cute and tenderhearted as you. ?
Everyone has a right to peaceful protest. That is why I sympathized with them. However, you can't expect to retain the sympathy and support of everyone. You make a stand. You make your demands known. If you have a valid complaint you will continue to retain the support of others. After finding out all of the facts; I don't see that they had a valid complaint. Also, after I found out they had crossed state lines in order to find a convenient location for the takeover; that put me off also.
Anyway. You carry a gun, you refuse to stop at a road block, you get out hold your hands up for a minute or two and then go to reach for something in your coat....when law enforcement knows you are part of a group of armed occupiers................it isn't rocket science to know what the outcome of that will be.
jonnycomelately, this thread is not about you or your fanatical judgement of others. I do not spend time thinking about you. So maybe get over yourself?
My last post was about a man who was murdered in cold blood. Would you care to comment about Levoy Finicum? Any words for his family who have suffered a great lose?
As I said, "my heart is heavy"..and all you can do is think of ....... yawn.
Someone is paying that guy to obscure the truth about Kenyan-born, gay, commie, Moslem, less-than-half-black, son-of-a-porn-star, Antichrist Obama the future head of the United Nations/King-despot of the world. BHO is the Son of Rosemary i.e. Rosemary's baby all grown-up.
It was you who brought in the distraction of the quote from a fanatical "pastor," not me. And it's you that resorts to the god stuff and religion, whenever you find it too difficult to wriggle out of ownership for what you start in the argument. Rarely do you present any of your own honest opinion. It's mostly reiteration of a fanatic's unbalanced argument. And I have never seen you counter the Sgt for his way-out views. So it seems you don't disagree with him.....that in itself discredits your opinion without anyone else having to pass judgment on you.
Concerning the murder of Levoy, I know nothing about him or the circumstances, so not in a position to judge. Have you first hand information that befits you to pass judgment? Or is it only hearsay?
Live Stream: Donald Trump Rival Rally To Benefit Veterans Drake University,Iowa Jan 28th 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_xNfp9 … e=youtu.be
Trumps benefit for Veterans raised $6 million so far!
Link above has a FBI video of LaVoy being shot down in cold blood.
I'm not here to entertain you, or jump through hoops to make you happy. I am sorry, that I'm not all that you want or need me to be. I'm just me. I don't like to argue, it does nothing for me.
I express my different opinions to Sgt. in conversation. I guess you just don't notice that. He expresses his different opinions, and we don't argue. Its called agreeing to disagree, its a civilized way of communicating in an online friendly relationship. I should not have to explain that.
Honestly, I'm not going to jump when you say jump, John. You are free to leave this thread as you have said you would a couple times before. No one is forcing you to join in here, but you are welcome (as I said before).
There's a reason why my earlier messages on this post have said that people here are prejudice and racist... It goes on to say a lot about everyone here and their personality against Muslim people. It's so interesting that "This is the land of the free", and oh let's not forget " You are free to practice whatever religion you want" ...I really don't think that's the case. Just because Obama has a past history or even present history with Islam and he's black doesn't mean that this guy is bad or a terrorist people.
First of all let's not forget this! - Terrorists? DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHO THEY ARE? They are they people who stole this land from the NATIVE AMERICANS and claimed it for themselves. Many Native Americans are being forced to have their Legal Native American names removed and are being forced to use fake names because their real names were not acceptible to be used. This is discrimination and disrespectful AND NO ONLY THAT THEY ARE FORCED TO CHANGE THEIR RELIGION! What is that to you?? SINCE YOU ALL SEEM TO BE EDUCATED ON THE IDEA OF TERRORISM!
Oh another thing, let's not forget that this society is so corrupt and horrible that people still believe the 9/11 attack was done by terrorist groups in the Middle East!...
Wow! Glory to God, I saw the Light! Jesus Christ the King of kings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzqTFNf … e=youtu.be
BTW, Muslim is not a race ... it is a government, sharia law and a cult religion. Being Muslim has nothing to do with the color of a person's skin. This is not "racism". I am prejudice toward Islamic jihadists with over-whelming reasons why.
Thousands and thousands of Muslims are having visions and dreams of Jesus Christ and are being called and chosen for a personal spiritual life as Christians. They are turning away from Islam. I would welcome these people from the Middle East tomorrow if they a properly vetted. --- Because they are being rejected by Muslims, persecuted, tortured to try to convert back to Islam, crucified, burned, imprisoned, beheaded, raped, and sold into slavery. But, the Obama Administration doesn't want these Christian refugees... while Muslims get a pass...even jihadists who want to kill Americans.
Being Muslim it's no race or gov't ...It's a religion. People who believe say " I'm Muslim."
It seems like it's more than just about why Ben Carson doesn't want a muslim president, though a brilliant surgeon he has no mind for a politician. You all people are prejudice towards Muslims and surely they are looked differently in the eyes of everyone here. You have no idea what it's like to be a Muslim here in this country. Obama and it's administration may be corrupt but that doesn't mean that he has no right to practice his religion or be a president of a country.
How do you even know that these Muslims are having visions of Christ? Are you inside their head to know such things? In fact there are so many Christians who have converted to Islam and wear Hijabs for that fact.
You want them to reject one superstitious cult and take up another!
What unintelligent no -sense is that?
Just remember your fundamentalist christianity is guilty of favoritism, causing families to reject members who don't follow the "faith," destroy cultures and traditions that don't suit its bigotry.
If you really exercised your christian faith, you would hold out your hand of friendship to anyone of any other faith.
Your own writing proves that you haven't a clue, Susie. Cruelty, dishonesty, discrimination - these are not confined to people of one particular religion. They belong to the ignorant and the blind of heart.
Excess me!
Maybe it is your post that shows that it could be aclueistic (without a clue).
No, Obama being black or associated with Islam doesn't make him bad. What makes him bad is how he can and has done for seven years now so easily said a thing and then done the exact opposite. Barack Hussein Obama is a habitual liar who speaks really really well in public. He speaks so well people choose to ignore all of his lies about this and that, followed by an opposite action to what he has previously said.
It seems like the fact that he is associated with Islam does make him a bad person...That's exactly what it seems like as a matter of fact.
Of course he speaks well in public because he's educated! Obama is a graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, he worked as a civil rights attorney and taught constitutional law at University of Chicago Law School. What did you think?? Every politician has lied in their life, no matter what position they hold in the office.
Listen to me people! Left-handed Obama, left-handed Kerry, left-handed Putin, left-handed Abbas & left-handed Netanyahu are making World War Three happen per the blueprint of General Albert Pike. They plan to make order out of chaos so first they will make chaos. Getting mostly male Moslem "refugees" saturating all western nations is part of the plan as there will be a planned bloodbath. Within a year Kenyan-born Obama will head the UN as the Antichrist. Get ready!
The only WWIII I see is the fact that people here are prejudice, racist, self-centered and think that America is a Hero in everything and the fact that this country should always be the first in everything that happens, we were in a war with Iraq for 8 years which killed over 600,000 people in the first 3 years..Seriously people...seriously...
Look at the flip side of what the Iraq and Iran wars have done to the United States. Are you a citizen of America?
American citizens are political-correctly the enemy now. Especially all the angry old white-guys like me. Somehow my kids blame me for slavery and stealing land from Indians. I didn't even see a real live black person until I was five or six. I thought Uncle Ben & Aunt Jemima were husband and wife. I could count the American-Indians I ever met on my ten fingers.
I also agree with Dr Ben Carson that this goofy pope is really evil, the Catholic church I was raised in is the Great Whore of Babylon and the Sabbath is the seventh-day of the week and not Sunday.
Stealing lands from the NATIVES!!! Not Indians..where are you educated from?
2. Actually I agree with your kids, because of the fact that the great great great great ancestors...like literally the people who came here on the Mayflower, that's the origin of it all.. You are born probably here in America but it is those people who are your ancestors and they ARE THE ONES WHO TOOK THE LAND from the NATIVE AMERICANS and now what?? hu? They were FORCED to change their names and religion!
3. It was the white colored people who had slaves, who SOLD THOSE PEOPLE and treated them like garbage. They were prohibited from learning to read and write, and their behavior and movement was restricted. Many masters took sexual liberties with slave women, and rewarded obedient slave behavior with favors, while rebellious slaves were brutally punished.
I'll have to read up on the blue-print of General Albert Pike when I have time. That has got my interest being he was a Confederate officer.
Brigadier General Pike was a 33d Deg Freemason and Chief Adjutant of the KKK. That blueprint/letter was sent to another member of the evil-cabal of global-elite in Europe(Priory of Sion?) as an outline of events required to get the whole world worshiping Lucifer.
I really like that informative site, thank you for sharing the link. I have been reading off and on most of the day on that site. Its a real eye opener...and could be a shocker for some folks. Facts are facts. The writing is on the wall about the elites, corrupt politicians, bankers and big corporations....
but some people will seek to blame the Obama. lol
See: http://www.threeworldwars.com/
Wake up people!
Many Americans are understandably fearful of terrorism and of the immigration policies that could allow terrorists to come into our country. Obama doesn't want us to say that because we're supposed to blindly accept people regardless of them being from ISIS-infused territories around the world. ... But, I will not be politically correct when this is so wrong on several levels.
I predict a huge turnout for the Iowa Caucuses because Americans know there's a lot on the line.
A woman wrote a book called "Dark Money" about Governor Walker and the Koch brothers. I wonder if she knows Hellary & Rubio are the two presidential candidates benefitting the most from "dark money"?
"Dark Money" about Governor Walker and the Koch brothers, huh? Maybe she knows but not telling on "Hellary & Rubio". Books are not always accurate but I may read it someday. There's dirty money to go around from all sides. Money and power!
Evidently, Hillary received $6 million from Soros recently. But, she's telling the world she hasn't been bought. I think Soros was left a little disappointed in funding Obama's presidential campaign.
Cruz and Clinton won (edited) in the Iowa Caucus.
Now that should be a good debt.
Dark Money looked at it all and found 80% of the money came from Right-wing supporters, only 20% came from people like Soros. Read the book, you might learn something.
No matter who wins, other than dual-Israeli citizen Bernie Sanders or Birther-Trump, the global-elite will have a puppet.
I heard that none of the presidential candidates were running for office by mistake, that they were all picked. If that is true, no one woke up one day and said, "I think I'll run for president." Is that believable because of the global elites who pull the strings?
I believe some of the candidates are more noble then others...and have good intentions for America.
I remember Jimmy Carter said that he couldn't do the things he wanted to do as president because his hands were tied. Tied by who or what? The global elites? The Washington cartel? The corrupt corny politicians? Wall Street?
FDR said it best "Nothing in politics happens by accident." Who would know better than him?
The big question there is: Who shot FDR?
You won't read my book, the Holy Bible, so why should I read yours?
FYI - Cruz is an illegal Presidential Candidate because he was born in Canada.
www.BirtherReport.com
No! not when you have a closed mind with your own set of absolutes already set out, in concrete, immovable.
The presumption that "Armageddon" is going to take place, according to the design of an imaginary god, that has ordained a particular course for this world, against all manner of trumped up (no pun intended) conspiratory theories, may well lead some individuals to work for it to happen.
If this colours all of your thinking, then you have become well and truly hooked.
May I let you into a secret? This world, this beautiful World, is one of great diversity, great wonder, great potential. It is made up of infinite variety of geological formations, living species, weather patterns, energy pathways, with always new things to learn and experience. Not all agree with every idea of "truth." Because there is no one defined "truth." It all depends upon perception. So it is not sensible to reject anything finally. Always keep an eye and ear open to new knowledge. Enjoy your life.
Truth be told, it is not by the will of man to decide who will be president, God has his hand on who will be the leader of this country.
If this is not passing-the-buck of responsibility, what is?
The people of your country choose their President, not any make-believe god.
In reality it will be people (individuals) who have the money, in some cases the gift of the gab, a band of supporters and the personal commitment, who ultimately sit in the White House.
You are free to believe as you wish. Care to step down here to Earth?
It still may be that Bush gets in … somehow.
It won't be Cruz. It won't be Trump. it won't be Rubio … it won't be Clinton
so … who has the best chance in the final analysis?
someone with legacy and experience and the financial backing.
Maybe.
If it were up to the people they would pick Trump.
God?
really?
And that is why the night Kenyan-born Obama was selected the Pick-3 number in the Illinois lottery was 6-6-6 & Pick-Four was 7-7-7-9 which means God's perfect will and JUDGEMENT. Like Judas was ordained to betray Christ, Obama is ordained to be The Antichrist.
What a load of BS you talk, Sgt! What proportion of the American populous believe this nonsense, do you suppose?
That Obama was God's perfect will and JUDGEMENT?
Probably a fair percentage. Don't forget that Katrina was God's judgement for refusing to mistreating gay people...
Maybe He has got up to date and has real-time coverage of your's and my thought processes....a sort of universal WWW....I mean UWW.
Truth never changes.
Abortion will always be the intentional taking of innocent human-life for selfish reasons.
Same-sex marriages can NEVER be consummated so will always remain civil-unions.
Global-warming is the biggest lie since evolution.
Kenyan-born Obama the Antichrist & False Prophet Pope Francis will be cast for eternity into the lake of fire with Allah/Satan and their minions.
Jesus Christ is Lord of all forever.
Truth is eternal.
Ok. So any couple of people who are over child-bearing age, who wish to get together, must not call it marriage, only Civil Union. Fair enough. Big-Brother, Christian Prepper has spoken.
It is not a matter of having children. It is simply a matter of coming full-circle by performing the same act(coitus) which brought the participants into existence in the first place. Those unable to do that cannot consummate which is really what defines marriage between a man and a woman.
Poppycock. You are making up your own rules to suit the circumstances.
Some men and women couples cannot truly consummate.
Just because Obama has ties with Islam and the Muslims around doesn't mean he will be having a spot in Dante's 9th layer of the Inferno!
Christ is the prophet of God and so are all the other ones like Krishna, Buddha, Zoreaster, Abraham, Muhammed, Baha'u'llah (From the Baha'i Faith)...
Abortion is up to the parents of the unborn child and yes at he same time it's heart breaking and rips your heart out of your chest but if it's done in the time frame then it's not murder or anything at all...Although I am against abortion and taking the life of an unborn fetus...SO SAD!
*a little too emotional right now...*
The truth can always hurt like a b....it will come back and hunt you.
Dr. Ben Carson would be a very worthy choice for Surgeon General. He has run a clean campaign, regardless of what the opposition has said to try to smear his good reputation. Regardless of what he does in the future, I'm sure he will continue to do good deeds.
If nothing else he will likely write more books and do very well for himself in the future. Now that everyone knows his name, book sales should be excellent. e-commerce is big business... Amazon.com reported revenues of $74.45 billion for 2013. --- Maybe we should write books?
Unbelievable!! I actually agree with Prepper and Colorfulone on this one, singular point. Carson might make a good SG if he can keep his religion out of the post.
Dr. Carson did drop out of the race for the White House, but he said he would be involved in politics. I don't know what he has in mind but I'm sure he will be helping people to help themselves to improve their lives. Everyone says what a nice guy he is...I agree 100%. Very nice man!
We need to protect our First Amendment Rights in the United States!
Freedom of Speech!
Does Freedom of Speach mean you can publish lies, slander and defame just as and whenever you dam well please? Surely not? That is not a civilised society.
Freedom of speech in the United States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_o … ted_States
The Right to Criticize Public Figures
http://iipdigital.usembassy.gov/st/engl … z42AJVT2vt
The HubPages Forum Rules
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"If you don’t see an open thread about something you’d like to discuss, please open a new thread."
"Harassing, threatening, or intimidating other Hubbers is against our Terms of Use."
Respect of other Hubbers is a Big One
Ok, no one has a right to restrict your Free Speech, nor to restrict your right to Criticize Public Figures. I acknowledge that and respect you for that right.
From one of those links you gave me:
"By contrast, in the United States, the Supreme Court has said, “There is no such thing as a false idea.” In Gertz v. Robert Welch (1974), Justice Lewis Powell observed, “However pernicious an opinion may be, we depend for its correction not on the conscience of judges and juries but on the competition of other ideas.”
So, maybe we can look at and listen to other ideas in competition with your own.
One idea you put up a few posts back: "Obama is attempting to manipulate a judge from Senator Chuck Grassley’s state of Iowa, while the Senator is in a fight for reelection, for leverage to muscle him onto caving on confirmation hearings."
Regarding the first sentence here, concerning Pres. Obama's attempt to manipulate..just supposing there was no attempt to manipulate. Supposing it was just a social meeting without a shred of ulterior motive.
Do you see that there are other possible explanations for the actions of parliamentarians.
Read more: http://iipdigital.usembassy.gov/st/engl … z42BtuUT1B
Get your head out the sand?
Just more predictable ridiculous nonsense, Yawn...
Franklin Graham's mission is to present the Gospel of Jesus Christ, not to condemn anyone to hell. He followed in his father, Billy Graham's foot steps to minister the Gospel of Christ. Not hell and brimstone.
Franklin would tell you that, "Jesus loves you." He is a man of God.
Don't believe the devils lies, or Obama's. That's their language.
That's what the religion of Islam does!
We need more Muslims who denounce Sharia Law, CAIR, that stand up and fight against ISIS, that don't murder 14 Americans who held them a baby shower, that rise up and root out the 900+ ISIS terrorists the FBI says are in our country, that destroy Al Qaeda, the Taliban, Hamas, Hezbollah, and dozens more Muslim jihad terror groups.
Those are the kind of Muslims we all need. Not the ones who are committing civilization jihads.
Your picture is so racist and prejudice towards Islam..That's the victory of Allah?? Who are you? Are you even a human being? How can that be God's victory? To blow up that place is a victory for God? Seriously... I can't believe this right now. Every religion has people who are covenant breakers or they are traitor but then the religion itself is peaceful...
Yes, curious minds want to know ... is Colorfulone a dysfunctional human or a computer programmed to vomit venom? I betcha' unAmerican, biggoted, Prepper is a pseudonym for Colorfulone whose real name is Cutler.
Usama bin Laden and Associates on the September 11th Terrorist Attacks.
Transcript: http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeche … 21301.html
I was not involved in the attack on 9/11. Read for yourself what bin Laden had to say about the attack that killed 2,996 people and injured more than 6,000 others. He praised Allah for it along with many other Muslims, it was like their team won a soccer game.
Hey, if you want to follow Allah and stand up for radical Islamic terrorists, go for it! We are not on the same side then.
MAHSA SETAREH WROTE: "Your picture is so racist and prejudice towards Islam."
The picture of the 9/11 terrorist attack is "racist and prejudice towards Islam"? That is so ridiculous! Unbelievable!
Again, Muslin or Islam is not a race. Get it? I am prejudice towards radical Islamic jihadists. It surprises me to find someone who calms to be an American who is not against terrorists. I have to ask: Are you a radical Muslim? Are you trying to suggest that Allah is God?
Please educated yourself....Allah is the arabic term for God. Just like God is the english term...
Oh god.. ok... Islam is a religion and Muslims are people who practice Islam!
Just like Christianity is a religion and Christians are people who practice it.
I'm a US citizen and yes I don't like terrorism but then at the same time people on here are seriously racist..
'Please educated yourself?'.... Oh, my goodness!
"Proof Allah is Satan from the Words of Muhammad"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_dqHi90rl4
ISLAM - The True Religion Of Satan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17W1mJsnzKc
Being Muslim has nothing to do with racism, mahsa. Muslim / Islam has nothing to do with a race...no one is being racist. (period) Shall I say that again and again until you can get it? (or, educate yourself?)
If you do not know about something, you do not worry about it. Ignorance truly is bliss!
* 2 Corinthians 4:4 (NLT)
4 Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.
It's great to know that you searched for those specific words on youtube! I'm sure all the other people who are covenant breakers or even racist, prejudice and even stupid will watch that video too...just like the 84 people who have watched that video on youtube. Some moron came up with this video and wants the attention of people, THAT'S ALL, nothing more and nothing less. PERIOD!
NO KIDDING it has nothing to do with race...Islam is the religion and Muslims are the followers PERIOD! I don't need to be told again and again due to the fact that I know!
It's the fact that NO ONE here knows anything because they don't have experience in it thats why!! Just because Christ is born from the Virgin Mary, and Muhammed was born in Saudi Arabia DOES NOT MEAN ANYTHING!
Yeah sure... I can just tell from the Title of this post " NO MUSLIM AS PRESIDENT" that says a lot about not being racist or prejudice. Totally obvious that no one is being racist..Do you know that there are other religions out there also?
Hindu Faith, Zoreaster Faith, Buddhist Faith, Baha'i Faith, Jewish Faith...So it's just christianity that exists on this earth and they are the best of them all and we are ll supposed to turn to Christ and praise him only?
As I said, "If you do not know about something, you do not worry about it. Ignorance truly is bliss!"
It is better for people if they do not know. Nothing to worry about, right? I'm glad you 'got it' that this is NOT racist finally. I still grieve over of the lives that we lost because of 9/11...and victims are still dying.
How many more radical Islamic terrorist attacks have there been since 9/11? How many more does there have to be before people see the pure evil?
Be blessed!
Exactly if you don't know anything about being born in the middle east, what it's like, and the culture and religions in the middle east...please don't worry about it and don't say anything..
So, you lived in the Middle East? Are you a Muslim?
You sound like you may be bias.
Muslims practice "taqiyya" (lying).
2 Corinthians 4:4 (NLT) "Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News..."
I support refugees in the Middle East and get reports from people on the ground and from people who have been there, imprisoned, or live / lived there. But, I suppose according to you, they all need to educate themselves?
I wonder how much Jesus Christ earned from spreading his message.
By following in his father’s foot steps and spreading the gospel of Jesus Christ, Franklin Graham earned $1.2 million in 2008 from two salaries, two retirement packages and an assortment of other tax-free payments. This number shocked the philanthropic industry and publicly embarrassed both the evangelist and the two ministries founded by his father that were paying him. Graham admitted in a Charlotte Observer interview that his total compensation package “looks terrible” and that “people won’t understand it.” {1}
The evangelist made a very public announcement in 2009 that he was suspending “for the time being” all contributions to the two retirement plans funded by the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association (BGEA) and Samaritan’s Purse. A few days later, he announced that he also intended to work for BGEA “for no compensation” but no time limit was stated. “I feel that God has called me to this ministry and that calling was never based on compensation,” he wrote in a memo to employees at BGEA.
However, with far less publicity, Franklin Graham resumed his salary from BGEA one year later. He also began to shift large portions of his two salaries to perks and other benefits, thereby, reducing his total declared compensation last year from both charities down to a little more than $880,000, with $258,667 coming from BGEA. {2}
While the $880,000 salary he collects today is less than the $1.2 million he received in 2008, it is still considered inappropriate by the experts who monitor nonprofit charities. Guidestar, a group that gathers financial data on thousands of nonprofits, reported that his earnings in 2013 as CEO of Samaritan’s Purse were greater than every other US-based international relief charity including some with larger operating budgets. In stark contrast, the $3 billion operating budget of the American Red Cross, another global relief organization similar to Samaritan’s Purse, is several times greater than that administered by Franklin Graham, but the Red Cross CEO receives compensation below $600,000 a year.
Even beyond the many comparisons to secular nonprofits, Franklin Graham’s lucrative salaries have also drawn criticism from other evangelical organizations as well!
“Compensation-setting practices should be consistent with generally accepted biblical truths and practices,” according to the guidelines published by the Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability. But, such is not the case at Samaritan’s Purse since Franklin Graham took over.
Pablo Eisenberg is a senior fellow at the Georgetown University Center for Public & Nonprofit Leadership who has labeled Franklin Graham’s tandem salaries “outrageous.” “It’s a moral issue particularly for a man of faith,” he told the Observer. “And also you have to remember that (compensation is) partly paid for by the taxpayer. In a sense, we the taxpayers are subsidizing Frank Graham’s salary and his relatives who are paid.” {3}
Mr. Eisenberg’s makes a valid point about taxpayers subsidizing Franklin Graham and his family. Graham is CEO and chairman of the 14-member BGEA board of directors. His son Will, his sister Anne Graham Lotz and his cousin Melvin also sit on the board. In addition, IRS 990 forms filed annually by the BGEA list salaries for Billy Graham, for W. Franklin Graham IV (Franklin Graham’s son), and for numerous other family members. {4}
While donors have 880,000 valid reasons to question why their charitable contributions are not being spent frugally, William Franklin Graham III continues to raise the levels of greed and avarice among evangelicals who do not practice what they preach.
{1} http://www.charlotteobserver.com/living … 05932.html
{2} Ibid.
{3} http://www.religionnews.com/2015/08/18/ … onprofits/
{4} http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fra … 3c12be11af
Who is "bickering" as you say? That sounds childish.
All is well here!
There are only two kinds of people - the regenerate & the unregenerate. Bottom line question is: Where will YOU spend eternity? In Heaven with the virgin-born Son of God, Jesus the Christ OR in the lake of fire with the Kenyan-born son of a porn-star Obama the Antichrist, False Prophet Francis and their master Satan(AKA: Allah)?
Where were you educated?? Seriously!!
'Allah' is the arabic term for God...if that's the case then GOD is SATAN!!
Are you seriously that racist and uneducated?? wow...
you're pretty much saying that GOD IS SATAN!
I'm telling you people.... There's some SERIOUS prejudice and RACISM going on here!
God is God. Moslems worship the devil called Allah, Lucifer and Satan. Mohammed was evil-incarnate just like Kenyan-born Obama is. Talmudic & Kabalah-practicing Jews are also devil-worshippers and they are really the ones responsible for the 9/11 attacks with help from the Bush-family. Jesuits, Freemasons & Shriners are also in on the devil-worship and child-sacrifice. In fact False Prophet Francis is an initiated member of The Ninth Circle Luciferians.
Well then I don't know what kind of education you had..
Allah is just another TERM in ARABIC for GOD.
If Mohammed who is also the prophet of God is as you say 'satan' then so are all the other prophets and messengers of God including Christ.
I can't believe the media had done some serious brain damage on people! The only prophets I know that believe are:
Zoreaster aka. Zarathustra) - (Zoreaster Faith)
Lord Krishna- (Hindu Faith)
Siddhartha - (Buddhist Faith)
Moses - (Jewish Faith)
Christ - (Christianity)
Muhammed - (Islam)
Baha'u'llah - (Baha'i Faith)
There are NO prophets after them...Anyone who claims to be a prophet or messenger of God after them is a covenant breaker.
Your comment sounds like blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. "Allah" is the name the Arabs gave to the ancient Babylonian moon god, "Sin" or "Nana".
Marsha, it is impossible to convince the insane with truth which is why I don't really engage the likes of Prepper, Colorfulone, and Cutler. (although I do take an occasional potshot like this.)
ADDED: I see My Esoteric is taking "potshots".
a) a shot aimed unexpectedly or at random at someone or something with no chance of self-defense.
* Naw, totally expected.
b) a criticism, especially a random or unfounded one.
* Totally, unfounded.
c) a shot at a game bird or other animal purely to kill it for food, without regard to the rules of the sport.
.
* With regard for the HubPages Forum Rules and much more...?
http://hubpages.com/faq/#forums-rules
"Marsha, it is impossible to convince the insane with truth which is why I don't really engage the likes of Prepper, Colorfulone, and Cutler. (although I do take an occasional potshot like this.)" ~ My Esoteric
* See....?
Use words wisely!
Respectfully, My Esoteric, we are not to make personal attacks in the HubPages Forums against Hubbers. Please stop taking "potshots"...it is disrespectful. Thank you, m'dear.
Insane: in a state of mind that prevents normal perception, behavior, or social interaction; seriously mentally ill.
(of an action or quality) characterized or caused by madness.
in a state of extreme annoyance or distraction.
I don't see that charge as being well founded or within the Rules.
The part that is hard to digest is this: Pink-slime is people. Goyim babies are sacrificed weekly in Satanic-masses around the world. Popes Francis & Benedict have both attended these events and partook of drinking the blood. The flesh is ground-up and processed as "pink-slime" and sold in meat by Mickey-D's, Walmart, Sam's Club, school-lunches and even Starbuck's.
Worst of all it is the rich & powerful who are attending these sacrifices and Black Masses e.g. Queen Elizabeth, Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands, Dick Cheney, George Soros and every pope since Vatican-II. For this reason only I have to be somewhat suspicious of Birther-Trump. FYI - Every male CEO of Fortune-500 companies is a Freemason and member of evil secret societies. That is how they get and keep their power & wealth. Most of us unwashed proles are just "useless eaters" who will be killed and/or Raptured in "the great culling" which must occur before The Georgia Guidestones are implemented. I am taking my Iife in my hands just telling you people these secrets, but it must be told.
When I talk to my American Muslim friends I am inspired by their compassionate moderate conservative views on the important issues we face together as citizens. They can see beyond the exterior of propaganda, (lies), and the decade old illusions being created with the help of Muslim-Liberal allies.
My friends have their say, qua Muslims, throughout the world wide web and in their communities. They are for the history and the roots Americans identify with in their homeland. They are for Christians to be able to celebrate their rich inheritance without persecution... As they are for all faiths to continue to be able to celebrate in peace and harmony on this beautiful land for all who love and appreciate our home.
BTW, they are promoting Trump, who said, ... "You've got fabulous Muslims. I know many Muslims. They're fabulous people. They're smart. They're industrious. They're great."
They tell others about the lies the establishment / media / brainwashed, etc. spew. I feel honored that they consider me a friend.
Although I don't necessarily agree with their feelings because the FACT is Donald is much BRIGHTER than people give him credit for, all the MUSLIMs I know think TRUMP is a Dangerous Retarded CLOWN ~
Thank you, AP...I will be laughing over your comment for days.
I agree with that quote by Dr. Ben Carson 100%. But...
Recently the brilliant brain surgeon questioned Obama’s "black experience,” hinting about O's white mother.
“He was, you know, raised white. I mean, like most Americans, I was proud that we broke the color barrier when he was elected, but … he didn’t grow up like I grew up.”
I'm having a little trouble with the logic Carson is using, it must be a 'white thing' on my part, huh. What is the logic?
So? Are we giving up our principle of equality for all, equal treatment under the law, for PC when we allow two lovers to marry? Did we give up our principles when women got the vote? When blacks got citizenship? The same arguments were used then...
I think it's more a matter of refusing Christian control of "our" beliefs and principles. Of Ben Carson wanting to supply those "beliefs and principles" for everyone, based on his religion. Of actually demanding that all peoples are treated the same.
Which is exactly where he lost my support. A fine man otherwise, the insistence that the country be Christian throughout, following the edicts of the Christian church, destroyed any credibility he may have had.
I hope the Republican party learned something from the utter failure of Carson and others like him to garner any but the fringe support - those that feel their religious beliefs gives them the right to control everyone around them.
I see what your saying and think you are right. Its like Bernie Sanders saying that "America was founded on racism". In other words its rhetoric...sly!
During the 18th century humans were not considered equal under the law here or anywhere else. Our positions in life were determined by birth. Not by race, politics, relations or religions.
Oh, these other persons...blah, blah, blah.
And if the GOP and their conservative friends have their way, we would return to a society where our positions in life would be established by birth....
Please tell me that was just a knee jerk response and you don't actually believe that?
I don't think so ... not about the GOP wanting to establish positions by birth. That sounds more like Obama's liberals giving special preference to Muslims/Blacks, to me.
Obama is trying again to close Getmo which is nothing but an attempt to keep a promise to a group of terrorists he supports with government money and weapons because of birth, conversions, donations and whatever other deals he made. - Fawning his radicalized-masters. grrr!
Tit for tat!
Anyway, I was surprised and didn't understand Dr. Carson saying that. Its rhetoric! He needs to step off the debt stage at this point, he's done.
I was saying that giving preference to those with money (i.e. 1 percent) over the rest of us, allowing them power and influence not justified by their numbers and not democratic is the start of aristocracy.
For the most part membership is closed, unless you win the lotto. They pass their advantages on to their offspring as social mobility has not really been that determinative as to success these days. Your best chance of being wealthy is having been born into it.
So, there is going to be the 'aristocrats' and then there will be all the rest of us, and those lines if they ever cross, is quite rare and the 1 percent people take comfort in that.
Recently on a conference call I learned quit a bit about the problems in the legislative process for not shutting down the government in December. They could have just gone with funding the government as is without addressing the Planned Parenthood issue BUT< that would have given Obama a blank check to proceed.
There's a whole lot to understand. 1/2 the Republicans in the House of Representatives wanted no additional spending. 1/2 wanted more funding for the military. They could not agree.
Paul Ryan's hands were tied and had to invite the Democrats to the table for negotiations. The divided Republican party lost a chance for a win in the House because of their own disagreement....rather than taking little wins, they had to compromise with the Democrats.
On the other side. Republicans have the majority in the Senate with 54....But< for anything to pass in the Senate, it takes 60 votes. So, that means they have to gain 6 votes from the Democrats to pass anything in the Senate.
So! Obama goes to work as soon as the House is working on anything to get blocking votes in the Senate...and that's easy to do. Also, he promises his Veto for anything that isn't part of his agenda.
Whoa, I feel sorry for the next president. Geeze!
His, Obama, black experience is authentic enough for me and for the 90 plus percent of Black folks who voted for him and continue to support him. Dr. Carson is just fawning his rightwing masters.
If only the GOP had gone after Obama like they are going after Trump.
Isn't life strange
A turn of a page
Can read like before
Can we ask for more
Each day passes by
How hard man will try
The sea will not wait
You know it makes me want to cry, cry, cry~
The Moody Blues
As far as I know there aren't any Muslims running for president. No native Americans either. How do you feel about them? How do you feel about Jews, e.g., Sanders?
This is an abnormal thinking. Some people always try to defame Islam. I think they are patronizing ISIS. ISIS stands for Anti Islamic State of Iraq and Syria.
ISIS is well known as the "Islamic State in Iraq and Syria ".
This thread is not anti-Islam...it is anti-radical Islamic terrorism and Shariah law. Obama is an apologist for radical Islamic terrorists.
Sorry if you misinterpreted and didn't know what ISIS stands for.
" Obama is an apologist for radical Islamic terrorists." What makes you say that? I'm not aware of anything remotely supporting this outrageous claim.
Definition of a fool: Hillary Clinton sounds just like Obama!
Hillary said we should have "empathy" and "sympathy" for those radical Islamic terrorists who want to kill us. ... “leaving no one on the sidelines, showing respect even for one’s enemies, trying to understand and insofar as psychologically possible, empathize with their perspective and point of view.”
What a FOOL!
Yeah, Hillary urged us to show respect for foes, calling it "smart power". (Hillary was looking at her notes) It wasn't a blooper!
Invite them to the White House if you become president Hillary...Don't take their swords and chop their heads off and stick it on a poll. -- They are killing Christians, beheading them. That's what they understand.
She is talking about people who threaten to attack the US. She is talking about radical Islamic terrorists who have committed jihad on US soil.
If you are running for president you cannot talk that way about people who intend to kill us, who are dying to kill us. This is not some little tilt to the left...its unilateral disarmament.
Hillary Clinton is being called irrational by military personal. I agree!
She disqualified herself as commander-in-chief. How the hell is she running for president? Oh yeah, Obama is still president...that's how!
I'm pretty sure you misquoted Hillary Clinton. Please document the quote if you can. I assume she was referring to Muslim Americans or Syrian refugees.
Its easy to do a search using keywords (aw, you know that). Here's one site with a VIDEO of Hillary Clinton for you to see and listen to.
http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign- … m-geraghty
Muslim Americans or Syrian refugees are not the enemy.
Radical Islamic terrorists who commit jihad are the enemy.
Such nonsense, Colorfulone. Don't you have any idea about the manipulation of photographic images these days?
With your advancing years you really should be more aware of reality.
".....a Photoshop contest held back in 2007 by the web site FreakingNews.com: ....."
Hi John, thank you for your assistance. I hope things have been peachie for you and you are in good health.
Meme!
EMAIL to me,
"Last week, the House Judiciary Committee passed a bill that calls on the State Department to classify the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist group. The bill, H.R. 3892, the Muslim Brotherhood Terrorist Designation Act, introduced by Congressman Mario Diaz-Balart (FL-25), was voted out of committee by a 17-10 party-line vote. We expect it to be brought before the full House for a vote.
Specifically, H.R. 3892 states that it is the “sense of Congress that the Muslim Brotherhood meets the criteria for classification as a foreign terrorist organization.” As Amended by the House Committee, Secretary of State John Kerry would have 60 days to issue a detailed report to Congress indicating whether the Brotherhood meets the criteria qualifying it as a terrorist group. The Senate's version of the bill is S. 2230 and the details about the legislation can be found * http://cqrcengage.com/act/app/bill/619504
This bill is a very important one. Once signed into law, it would be a crime for anyone in the U.S. to provide material support to the Muslim Brotherhood, and the Treasury Department could force banks to block financial transactions related to the Brotherhood. The bill lists U.S. groups that include the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) and the North American Islamic Trust (NAIT) as groups under the control of the Muslim Brotherhood.
We thank the House of Representatives for its leadership on this issue. It is now time for the Senate to act. That chamber's companion bill, S. 2230, the Muslim Brotherhood Terrorist Designation Act of 2015 has been introduced by Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX). At this time, it has only two cosponsors, Senators Orrin Hatch (R-UT), and Ron Johnson (R-WI).
We need members of the U.S. Senate to hear from you. Please tell them to demonstrate the leadership that we’ve seen in the House by acting quickly on this bill.
We know you are busy, so we’ve done all of the work for you. All you have to do is add your individual information and your voice will go directly to your two U.S. Senators. [If you have Senator Hatch or Johnson as your representative, please be sure to add a quick "thank you" for cosponsoring the legislation.]"
From ACT For America: http://www.actforamerica.org/
You can call me naive if you like to.
I am as much against primitive, fanatical, superstitious barbarism as you are. The first three adjectives can apply equally to either main-stream religion.
Yet, if you were on the "other side," i.e. you were Muslim instead of Christian, you would see yourself as being loyal to that side.
If each side is fundamentally loyal to its own concepts but blindly, stubbornly antagonistic to the other, how can there ever be the slightest movement towards understanding, tolerance and cooperation?
It's no good pointing to "the others" for them to change first. Charity really does begin at home. The changes and the deeper understanding must begin with yourselves, and that includes yourself, Susie. Just start applying the love and good will that you claim is the basis of your Christian faith. Failing that is to be hypocritical.
Let the changes begin. From both sides.
Out with fearing. In with caring.
Out with hating. In with trusting.
That all sounds good, John. I would like to see the US retain to the Rule of Law that the founders of the Republic built this Nation upon under God.
Democracy / Socialism / Communism might sound good in soundbites, on bumper stickers and on social media, too. But, what it does is corrode the economy and the human spirit itself.
"The larger the mob, the harder the test. In small areas, before small electorates, a first-rate man occasionally fights his way through, carrying even the mob with him by force of his personality. But when the field is nationwide, and the fight must be waged chiefly at second and third hand, and the force of personality cannot so readily make itself felt, then all the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most easily adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum.
The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken
Oh sure, the Economy always comes first!!!! Very Republican, Christian, Conservative and Capitalist of you, Susie!
Greed and selfishness are not confined to any one particular "-ism."
Granted, economics are very important in ensuring a continued, sustainable supply of basic necessities to each and every person, according to their needs. Supply and demand, demographics, forecasts, records, reports, reassessments....all these are important.
But when greed and selfishness are allowed to over-rule all other considerations, everyone ultimately will lose out. Look into that side of politics which you seem so enamored with.
Oh, and by-the-way, why, oh why, do you quote such bigoted stuff from that man? Taken from Wikipedia:
"Mencken opposed American entry into World War I and World War II. His diary indicates that he harbored strong racist and anti-Semitic attitudes, and was sympathetic to the Social Darwinism practiced by the Nazis."
What I am trying to show you, Colorfulone, is that your narrow perspective, whether it be Christian or whatever, is not going to improve anyone's situation in this world, let alone that of the United States of America. The terrible treatment dished out by bigotry and fanaticism will do us all a lot of harm, and you can be one of those who stops doing it...if you have a mind to.
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