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   Kenna McHughposted 2 months ago

   My stats are frozen, nothing is moving on the number counts, but I know I have some viewers. Anyone else experiencing this?

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      Upendra Patil98posted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Same problem

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      WriterJanisposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      It's been 31 hours for me.

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      Genna Eastposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Same here.  31 hours ago.
      
      "We strive to keep your statistics as up to date as possible and the recency of our statistics are closely monitored. If you notice that your stats haven't been updated in a while, rest assured that we are aware of the issue. You can expect that things will return to normal within a day or so."
      
      No input from Team Hubpages on this problem either.  But here's the gotcha...it appears that my stats were updated.

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      chef-de-jourposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Yes same here but I'm not too concerned because I've just deleted 450 articles and am about to abort this mission of 13 years and 32m views and head off into the sunset.
      Can I keep the profile going for a little bit longer just in case?
      
      I've also signed the petition recently set up re TAG's mistreatment of writers regarding intellectual property.
      
      All the very best to you and yours and grateful thanks for past generosities.

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         My Esotericposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

         What is an acceptable alternative platform, if any.

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      Matt Wellsposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      We are working on it. Stats will update soon.

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         Kenna McHughposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         Thank you, Matt, for the update.

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         Kyler J Falkposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         Matt, I can't presume to know what it's like on your end of these shenanigans, but many of us trust you and everyone at HubPages are doing their best to keep the ship afloat.
         
         We could use some input from the captains of this ship, even if that input is akin to a middle finger.
         
         I know you're always watching, we appreciate you.

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         Genna Eastposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         Thanks for letting people know, Matt.

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         satomkoposted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

         It has been four weeks.  An explanation would be appreciated.

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            Kenna McHughposted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

            Seth, it's not going to happen. TAG is working on their own platforms. They're not interested in HP other than stealing our content, titles, and URLs.

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            Genna Eastposted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

            Team Hubpages' assurances that this is something they were "working on" and that "stats will update soon," appears to be another misrepresentation on their part, Seth.  Nothing has been done.

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         larry-leaseposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

         Now care to explain everything else that has gone down the toilet. Or do u just want to keep ignoring your writers

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      Robert Sacchiposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Still frozen 2100 EST, 7/16/25.

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         Kenna McHughposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         I know I am not alone.

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      Springboardposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      Yep. Here too. 13 days and counting. Too bad they can't send us information when they send our notifications to our email.

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         Robert Sacchiposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

         When I was posting for Yahoo! Voices, for a couple of days I was getting a huge number of hits then they announced they had a problem with the hit counts.  They stopped the hit counters, corrected the problems, and everything went back to normal.  They day they froze the hits on HubPages I had a higher-than-normal hit count.  Did anyone else had a relatively high hit count when they froze it?

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            PaulGoodman67posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

            I didn’t.

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      Lorelei Nettlesposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      Mine are still frozen. If they're working on it, it's not working. I emailed but received no reply.

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         Kenna McHughposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

         Yup, no communication is their standard.

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            Okyere korantengposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

            

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               Robert Sacchiposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

               Thank you for sharing.  It is confirming what most of us probably suspected.

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         Robert Sacchiposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

         It may be above their budget or skill.

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            Kenna McHughposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

            Robert, you are being too kind. They know what they are doing.

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            Robert Sacchiposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

            I posted an article the other day.  It was marked as featured, but doesn't show an "authors view".  I hope this isn't a sign of a step backwards.

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               Kenna McHughposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

               Of course it is!

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      Coffeequeeenposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

      I'm so glad I came and checked out the forums and they're working on the stats!  Mine have been frozen for 2 weeks now!

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       vrdmposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

       First response after 4 emails:
       
       Team HubPages
       Mon 28 Jul, 21:00 (8 hours ago)
       to me
       Hello,
       We are aware of this issue and are working on it! I know we'll post in the forums when we have an idea of when it'll be done, but I would also like to know my article stats.
       Please let me know if you have any further questions or concerns.
       Thanks,
       Luke,
       Team HubPages
       
       ???????

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          Kenna McHughposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

          Thank you. Question: Did Luke write this? "but I would also like to know my article stats."

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             Okyere korantengposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

             I emailed them and this was their response:
             
             Hello,
             
             My apologies, I misunderstood your question. Stats have been bugged for the past two weeks. We are working on a solution, but I can tell you I don't know when the bug will be fixed. When it is, it will definitely be published in the forums.
             
             We apologize for the inconvenience. I am with you in hoping it is fixed soon. Please let me know if you have any further questions or concerns.
             
             Thanks,
             Luke
             Team HubPages

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          Robert Sacchiposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

          Thanks for sharing.

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       My Esotericposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

       I know for a fact that over the three days, at least two people visited an article I have written, yet no update on the stats.

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          Kenna McHughposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

          Many unethical activities and updates have occurred behind the scenes.

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   viryaboposted 2 months ago

   Same here.
   Update: 28 hrs ago!!

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   Venkatachari Mposted 2 months ago

   Yes, same here. Statistics from 29 hours ago.

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   theraggededgeposted 2 months ago

   It hardly matters

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      PaulGoodman67posted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Yes, it surprises me that some people are still checking daily!

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         viryaboposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         I think it has become a terrible habit. After nearly two decades.
         
         I need to shake it off though.

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            PaulGoodman67posted 2 months agoin reply to this

            I used to love awakening and checking now much money I'd made when I was asleep. I'd check the stats multiple times/day.
            
            As the figures dropped, that feeling gradually turned to dread.
            
            Now I probably check this account maybe twice/week at the most. Most of my HP accounts, I barely look at.

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               Kenna McHughposted 2 months agoin reply to this

               My stats have been frozen for five days. Checking to see if they've thawed is only natural. Perhaps there will be a spring awakening?

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                  Glenis Rixposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                  My stats for views haven’t been updated for 11 days. As for  earnings- updated daily but are almost always NIL. If TAG is moving to towards closing Hubpages down the honourable thing would be to pay us what they owe us - and then do it.

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                     PaulGoodman67posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                     In the past, I would have commented to people worried about the stats freezing not to worry, as it's happened lots of times in the past.
                     
                     However, the fragile state of the site and the extended length of the freeze make it difficult to say what's going on.
                     
                     It feels like we're waiting for the shoe to drop nowadays.

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                        Kenna McHughposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                        The shoe has dropped several times. Some of us are checking it out; it's interesting, to say the least.

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                        viryaboposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                        As long as they don't “drop the shoe” with our monies.
                        
                        That will be bold-faced theft!

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                           PaulGoodman67posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                           By the time the site closes down, there will be virtually no active hubbers left. That may be part of the plan, I don't know.

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         WriterJanisposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         Guilty as charged!

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   Venkatachari Mposted 2 months ago

   Though most of you may remove your content from here, I would like all of you to stay here as a community. Keep showing your heads with a status update or a discussion point.

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      Cheryl E Prestonposted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

      NewsBreak shut down the community forum just before deactivating hundreds of thousands of writers and onyl keeping about 100.

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         PaulGoodman67posted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

         Yes, the "community" here has dwindled to a tiny fraction of what it once was and the forum won't last forever.
         
         HP promoted the idea of a "community" in the early days but that stopped some years ago. When the Community Manager, Samantha Cubbison, was dispensed with, I think that was the end of that.
         
         Now, it's 3am and we're the the hangers-on at a party. If we don't leave voluntarily, the host will boot us out.

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   Carb Divaposted 2 months ago

   I'm still here. I'm revising and republishing content on another website, but don't see the point of deleting what sits here at Hub Pages. There is still passive income ($4 last month. Whoo hoo!)

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      My Esotericposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

      I think the point is TAG is stealing your copyrighted work.

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   viryaboposted 2 months ago

   39 hours!!.…… Still counting.

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   eugbugposted 2 months ago

   I made a wondrous 16c yesterday.

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      WriterJanisposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      So dinner's on you?

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   Shesabutterflyposted 2 months ago

   My stats are still frozen, yet my earnings have been finalized.

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      Upendra Patil98posted 2 months agoin reply to this

      Technical glitches and bugs resolved soon

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    Kenna McHughposted 2 months ago

    Well, I am still frozen, and it's summertime. I suspect this is a TAG ploy.

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    Gary Bourgeaultposted 2 months ago

    What's worse to me is, some of my articles have been not counting views for a month or so. This makes it extremely difficult to know what's going on.
    
    I had views last month that were fairly significant on several articles, and in the middle of the month they disappeared and since then, continue to attract zero views.

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       Shesabutterflyposted 2 months agoin reply to this

       Are you referring to your articles on Owlcation? You need to ask that they be moved to Discover if you want to earn from them. We are no longer allowed to earn from articles on any niche site.
       
       https://hubpages.com/community/forum/36 … ages-sites

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       Kenna McHughposted 2 months agoin reply to this

       Gary, it appears some underhanded things are happening. It's happened to me and some others. TAG/HP are silent, which is a huge red flag.

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          Chidimma Eunice Eneyeposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

          11 days now, and the stats are still frozen. Yet my earnings continue to increase by 1 cent each day. I might as well forget about this account and check back when my daughter is ready for college (she's 4), maybe by then I will have made payout.

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    Venkatachari Mposted 7 weeks ago

    It broke the 2-week record today. Never did any other site go that far in their inability to fix such an issue..

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    Robert Sacchiposted 7 weeks ago

    Yes, it seems they have a big problem.  I hope the stats don't go the way of the comments on articles.

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    PaulGoodman67posted 6 weeks ago

    From my perspective, worrying about the frozen stats is like complaining about the slow service in the Titanic restaurant.

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       Kenna McHughposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

       You're still on the Titanic?

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          Robert Sacchiposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

          Many years ago when I mentioned to a friend how little money I was making. She replied that people were reading what I have written.  I understand the turn of events have been frustrating for people who were getting good money from their Hubs.

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    My Esotericposted 5 weeks ago

    I asked my new best friend, ChatGPT, the following question and got the following answer.
    
    TAG is killing Hubpages and is stealing content. Is there a reasonable alternative?"
    
    
    ChatGPT said:
    
    Thought for 40s
    
    Short answer: yes—there are solid alternatives. And you’re not imagining the HubPages/TAG mess.
    
    What’s going on with HubPages/TAG (why writers are upset)
    
    Since late 2024, The Arena Group (TAG, the company that owns HubPages) began pivoting niche sites away from user-generated content (e.g., PetHelpful, Dengarden).
    HubPages
    
    In March/April 2025 TAG said revenue sharing would stop for articles that remained on several niche sites (Delishably, Hobbylark, Owlcation, WanderWisdom, LetterPile, WeHaveKids) unless authors asked to move pieces back to Discover.HubPages. Many writers missed the short window and saw earnings disappear.
    HubPages
    +1
    
    HubPages was acquired by Maven (now TAG), so policy shifts are centralized. (That’s the corporate through-line.)
    Wikipedia
    
    On “stealing content”: HubPages’ FAQ still says you own your content, but TAG’s broader terms include very wide licenses to use material submitted to their platforms—worth reading closely if you think your work was reused without consent.
    HubPages
    The Arena Group
    
    Good alternatives (pick based on your goal)
    If you want the most control + best long-term SEO
    
    Self-hosted WordPress (WordPress.org) with a reputable host. Monetize with AdSense/Ezoic/Raptive, affiliates, or your own products. (More setup, but you truly control it.)
    
    If you want “publish & earn” with low setup
    
    Vocal Media — pays per read, accepts evergreen how-to content similar to HP niches.
    
    NewsBreak Creator — local/newsy angles do best; ad-revenue share and bonuses.
    
    Medium Partner Program — member-based payouts; discovery can be hit-or-miss.
    
    Substack — email + web publishing; free or paid subscriptions.
    
    Ghost (hosted or self-hosted) — like Substack but you own everything; membership paywalls.
    (These are the platforms most writers are moving to now; community reports mirror this shift.)
    https://www.authorityhacker.com
    Blogging Guide
    
    If you want a newsletter-first strategy
    
    Substack or Ghost(Pro) — build an email list you control, then monetize with memberships (no platform algorithm anxiety).
    
    If you write in tight niches
    
    Consider niche communities (e.g., specific forums, specialty publications) that pay per article; or pitch digital mags directly.
    
    Practical next steps (to protect yourself & move)
    Export your HubPages work and keep dated copies.
    
    Decide on a home (your site vs. a new platform).
    
    If you see your work reused beyond what you agreed to, file a DMCA and request removal; document URLs and dates. (HP’s help pages still point to DMCA procedures.)
    HubPages
    
    If your articles are stuck on niche sites that stopped sharing revenue, email support to move them back to Discover.HubPages (which still pays) or request removal/permission to republish. The April 2025 notices listed a contact for moves.
    HubPages
    
    If you tell me your top 2–3 goals (max ad revenue, email list growth, least maintenance, etc.), I’ll recommend a precise stack (hosting + theme + ad network or the best single platform) and a quick migration plan.
    
    
    
    I am guessing I (we) missed the window to move from the niche sites.
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Sources

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    theraggededgeposted 5 weeks ago

    "I am guessing I (we) missed the window to move from the niche sites."
    
    I think if you email the team, they will move your articles to Discover. However, be aware of the risk of having your best niche site urls used for similar or near identical content.

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       My Esotericposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

       Can you explain further?

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          theraggededgeposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

          Read the pinned posts here: https://hubpages.com/forum/hubpages
          
          And this thread: https://hubpages.com/community/forum/36 … m-discover

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    PaulGoodman67posted 5 weeks ago

    Whenever the stats freeze, I believe it always starts out measuring in minutes, hours, then goes to days since the last update.
    
    At this stage, it's at "Includes data from 4 weeks ago and earlier."
    
    It seems like only a matter of time before it starts measuring in months.
    
    After that, I guess it will be years...
    
    I guess we'll find out!

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       SerenityHaloposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

       Meanwhile, my earnings page continues to keep updating. Does this means the article stats are known somewhere else? Who knows if these two stat pages are in sync.

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          SerenityHaloposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

          And by two stat pages, I mean the earnings and articles stats that we have access to. I can see where I may have left room for confusion.

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             PaulGoodman67posted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

             It kind of doesn't matter, as they can pay us as much or as little as they like.
             
             I just treat HP like social media nowadays. The earnings are inconsequential when it takes many months to reach a payout.

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             Deepa damodaranposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

             I asked for my Owlcation articles to be moved to Discover HubPages, but no response yet.

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                Robert Sacchiposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                It seems they are having a host of problems.  My confidence they can solve their issues is low.  I would hate to be proven right.

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                Kenna McHughposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                When did you ask?

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                   Deepa damodaranposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                   Yesterday morning

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                      Kenna McHughposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                      Okay, did you try the email in this post?
                      
                      https://hubpages.com/community/forum/36 … ages-sites

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                         Deepa damodaranposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                         No, I haven't. I wrote to the edtors@hubpages email. Will try this. Thank you.

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                            Deepa damodaranposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                            What if we decide to read each and every article newly posted on the HubPages platform for, say, a few months? Can't the community support the writers in that way?

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                               theraggededgeposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                               No, the reach is too low. I doubt there are more than a couple of dozen people reading this post (including the lurkers - looking at you, Liz ).
                               
                               They couldn't possibly make a difference.

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                                  Deepa damodaranposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                                  Hmm...

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                               Kenna McHughposted 5 weeks agoin reply to this

                               Writers in the past did read each other's articles. I don't know if that helped. Nowadays, if you want to make money, it won't be here. HubPages will not accommodate writers. TAG does not want us to be successful.
                               
                               Think about it. TAG moved our articles away from the niche sites to Discover. Now, TAG is spinning and using URLs from those former high-value niche articles written and crafted by talented writers. That is stealing.
                               
                               Why would TAG not do that again and again, taking successful articles from HP and moving them to their platform?
                               
                               I can't see writers being successful here anymore.

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                                  Glenis Rixposted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

                                  I agree. Appalling business ethics. No honour amongst thieves.

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                                  Robert Sacchiposted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

                                  A pact to read each other's articles is unethical.  It would also be cause for HubPages to suspend the offenders' accounts.  It can also be cause to shut the site down.  Make no mistake I think it's good for HubPages members to look around an read HubPage articles that interest them, as well as sending email feedback to the authors.

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                                     theraggededgeposted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

                                     No, it isn't. A read is a read. What's the point in having followers if they don't read your work?
                                     
                                     It would have been unethical in the past to upvote people's articles **without reading them**. Remember the thumbs-up thing?
                                     
                                     Why would it be a factor in shutting the site down? There's no hanky-panky in reading other hubbers' articles. The site is doing a great job of shutting itself down.

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                                        Kenna McHughposted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

                                        Bev, well written. As I recall, some of us even "promoted" our articles as a recommended read on the forums.

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    Venkatachari Mposted 5 weeks ago

    I think you can read any newly posted article by clicking the relevant link to that article on HP Feed page. You need to browse the Feed Page towards its bottom for that link.

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    Genna Eastposted 4 weeks ago

    I agree, Bev and Kenna.  Followers read the work of other authors...that is and always has been the point of having them, as well as being part of our writer's community.

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    My Esotericposted 4 weeks ago

    It has been well over a week since I first noted my article that I recently updated hasn't been updated.

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    Robert Sacchiposted 4 weeks ago

    Why do I get the sinking feeling the hit counts aren't coming back?

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    My Esotericposted 4 weeks ago

    I started moving things to Medium

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       satomkoposted 4 weeks agoin reply to this

       What is "Medium"?

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          Kenna McHughposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

          The forum has extensively covered Medium. Here is the link to the site: https://medium.com/

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             Robert Sacchiposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

             Thank you.  It wouldn't for me.  I don't get that many hits.

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             satomkoposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

             Thank you for the helpful link.

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                Kenna McHughposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

                You're welcome

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    Cheryl E Prestonposted 3 weeks ago

    Same for my new story. 24 hours and 0 stats yet I know people are reading.

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    Robert Sacchiposted 3 weeks ago

    The money earned is still getting updated.

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       Robert Sacchiposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

       Was anyone out there close to a hits milestone?  It would be interesting to know if that's getting updated.

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          Patty Inglish, MSposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

          I was a few thousand away from 20,000,000 when the stats froze.

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             theraggededgeposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

             Amazing, Patty. You must be there by now, even if you can't see it. I managed 12 million and then watched it drop as I deleted each article.

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                Patty Inglish, MSposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

                At least I got articles all downloaded so they won't be lost.

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             Robert Sacchiposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

             Thank you.  Do they post a 20M badge?  I'm curious to see what is still working.

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                Solarasposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

                I don't think so; I think they never anticipated rewarding more than 10 million views.

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                   Patty Inglish, MSposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

                   I think I remember 50 million and 100 million badges and a few more, but that was around AD 2010. It was a long list, probably an incentive to boost articles production.

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                Patty Inglish, MSposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

                I don't know if they have that badge. Maybe I remember the next badge to be for 50 million.
                
                Anyway, what is working on my account: earnings, broken links, sometimes the red and blue arrows change, new followers, email notifications, and forum posts. I'm having difficulty accessing my articles to edit them.

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          Solarasposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

          I was 50K away from 15,000,000 when stats stopped.  Sounds like a long way off, but I used to get those views every 12 days or so.  Who knows now, maybe I will get there in 4 months, maybe I will never know.

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       Deepa damodaranposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

       Authors here have spent years writing on this platform and suddenly the company now just shuts them out. I am apalled by the business ethics involved. Who would do business with the company given the experience of its long-term writers who helped it grow through so many years? How could any company management behave like this? We deserve at least some minimum level of transparency and reasonable response to our querries.

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    ChitrangadaSharanposted 3 weeks ago

    I had sent an email to Team HubPages, enquiring about the frozen stats.
    I received a response from the Team HubPages yesterday.
    Same response as earlier----
    "We are working on the issue currently. We apologise for the inconvenience."
    Thanks
    Luke
    Team HubPages

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       satomkoposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

       I got an email a lot like that weeks ago when I asked about the situation.

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    Brenda Arledgeposted 3 weeks ago

    Thanks Chitrangada

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    CYong74posted 3 weeks ago

    Who is Luke? Is he new?
    
    What happened to Matt Wells?

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       ChitrangadaSharanposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

       No idea about what happened to Matt!
       But the email response is given by Luke.

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    Ansel Pereiraposted 3 weeks ago

    Luke Castille is User Operations Associate at Hubpages
    
    https://hubpages.com/about/team

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       Patty Inglish, MSposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

       Thanks Ansel! So we have 4 staff people left for now.

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       ChitrangadaSharanposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

       Thank you for the information and link.

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    Venkatachari Mposted 3 weeks ago

    So, it is a small team of four members. Eliminating the Associate Manager, Matt Wells, who is not traceable, we have three associates who must be striving hard to hold on.

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       Kenna McHughposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

       Venkatachari, I don't think so. They are working on the other platforms.

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    Solarasposted 3 weeks ago

    I suspect there is a purpose in our not knowing what our actual views are, from both a monetary and a legal perspective. This goes on too long.

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       CYong74posted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

       Agree with you.

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       Robert Sacchiposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

       I could be they lack the technical skills to correct the issue.  It seems they haven't touched their information forums for a long time.

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          Kenna McHughposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

          Robert, some of us have been looking into the situation. Believe me, it's intentional.

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             Robert Sacchiposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

             There's no hope of getting the stats back?

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                Kenna McHughposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

                Matt and Luke say they're working on it. That doesn't guarantee it. Sorry!

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                   Robert Sacchiposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

                   Fun while it lasted.

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                   Glenis Rixposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

                   According to AI search, Hubpages employs 25 people as of August 2025.
                   
                   
                   I wonder if one of 25 employees is responsible for performance management?

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                      theraggededgeposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

                      There are only a couple of people left overseeing HP. And that is only in their spare time.
                      
                      There are no performance targets, therefore no performance management. No upgrades, no investment,  no technical tweaks, nothing. The site is slowly closing down.
                      
                      TAG is using Discover as a resource. Literally draining HubPages dry.

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                         vrdmposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

                         Can you explain what TAG is?

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                            PaulGoodman67posted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

                            The Arena Group. More info at Wikipedia.
                            
                            There haven’t been 25 staff at HP for sometime, AI can give incorrect info.

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                            Kenna McHughposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

                            The Arena Group

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                      Kenna McHughposted 3 weeks agoin reply to this

                      HubPages is slowly dying while TAG steals content from HP. You'll read about it soon in the headlines.

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                         Chidimma Eunice Eneyeposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                         I received an email from a reader about one of my articles yesterday. That means these articles are really being read and yet HubPages is only updating our earnings by less than one cent a day. This is stealing.

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                            Kenna McHughposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                            Was it a spammer email?

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                               Chidimma Eunice Eneyeposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                               No... it was a genuine email asking for more info about my article. I get a lot of emails about that article, especially since the comment section was removed. It means our articles are still getting views, and we aren't being paid for them.

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                                  Robert Sacchiposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                                  I'm showing where my earnings are still going up.  It doesn't seem as smooth as before, but it's going up.

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                                     Chidimma Eunice Eneyeposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                                     It's been going up? Good for you! Mine are stagnant. Especially since the stats became frozen. I wonder if they're just leaving the site running so they wouldn't have to pay everyone while they just update our earnings in cents every day. Cause at this rate, it would take years to make payout. I'm moving my articles to Blogger, but I wonder if deleting it from here would channel the traffic to my blog.

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                                        Deepa damodaranposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                                        Try Wix. It is easy to build a nice-looking blog there if you are ready to invest some time. They will lead you through the steps. It took me a couple of months to be comfortable with it, but it is worth the time. Here is the blog I designed – https://www.greenwitchchronicles.com/
                                        I am moving my content there. I am not trying to lead traffic to my blog, but compared to Blogger, this is more professional. You will need to buy a domain name, but again, you get all support from Wix. You can also generate AI images for your articles. In the long term, I think Wix is good. Blogger gave me all kinds of trouble. It is like rudimentary. Doesn't look professional.

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                                        Chidimma Eunice Eneyeposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                                        @Deepa Damodaran, Your blog is really beautiful. I love the layout and colors. Beats blogger by far, I'll agree. I didn't see any ads, though. How are you earning from it?

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                                           Patty Inglish, MSposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                                           I'm going to have a look at WIX!

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                                              Kenna McHughposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                                              Let me know how it goes.

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                                                 Patty Inglish, MSposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                                                 I will. Hope it's good.

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                                              Deepa damodaranposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                                              I am yet to get Google AdSense approval, but I have already added the template for it. I hope, as I add more articles (I mean, also shift a few more from HubPages), I will get approval. Another good thing about Wix is that they let you add many crucial features, such as email campaigns, sell product features, and payment-receiving links, and the AI tool will even create a marketing plan for you. SEO features are also there. It gives you ideas about how to run a professional blog. I really love the experience of working with Wix.

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                                                 Patty Inglish, MSposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                                                 That's good news!

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                                              Deepa damodaranposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                                              Also, as I keep adding articles, the traffic is growing, and once ads appear, you get directly paid for the traffic without having to share with the platform. I have long heard that independent bloggers who write evergreen articles get paid much more compared to HubPages.

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                                                 Patty Inglish, MSposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                                                 Thanks for the info!

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                                                    Deepa damodaranposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                                                    Very welcome. I have grown fond of the writers here and I want all of us to succeed. Wish you all my very best.

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                                           Deepa damodaranposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                                           Thank you. I am waiting for AdSense approval.

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    My Esotericposted 2 weeks ago

    Is it me, or is Hubpages sort of frozen. When I click on Notifications, Accounts, Earnings or anything else in that list, nothing happens.

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       Kyler J Falkposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

       There's connection instability right now. Server-side.

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    Kyler J Falkposted 2 weeks ago

    TAG has historically left the sites they parasitize up and running long after the sites themselves have died, and my understanding is that they do this for legal purposes. They cannot recycle/steal/repurpose content if they do not have an active, public archive of the content they are referencing because an inactive property would void their ToS.
    
    My best guess based on all of the evidence we have collected would say that unless someone at HubPages or TAG decides HubPages is worth investing time and money into, HubPages will join the ever-filling TAG graveyard of sites that TAG has poached.
    
    Keep in mind as well, that TAG has a back-end user interface/dashboard that shows their views, earnings, CPM, etc. that we cannot see. They split views between their properties, and that's why google analytics never matched HP author dashboard when it was in use. That is also what I'd assume would be the reason stats are still frozen, TAG is tired of funding the upkeep between HP and TAG's different dashboards.
    
    TAG is shysty, they deserve nothing less than disdain, and karma will catch up to them. We will make sure karma has the clearest path possible.

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       Kenna McHughposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

       Kyler, great information, so true. They will get their comeuppance.

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          Robert Sacchiposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

          From what I understand HubPages has been a losing proposition for years.  If that's correct it would be senseless for TAG to spend any money on HubPages.  Sad.

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             Kyler J Falkposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

             If by losing proposition you mean we cut into their bottom line by taking a cut of the profits we earned for them, then yeah. TAGs quarterly report is showing gains as of now. Question is, what's next after hollowing out all of the publishing sites? Everyone here should be ahead of the game, using whatever their next target is, and from what I can see that's AISEO on sites we own ourselves.
             
             The medium isn't dying of natural causes, it's intentionally being dissected and slowly tortured to death for profits. They're killing their goose because it isn't laying enough golden eggs, and ruining the prospect of more golden eggs in the future.

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                PaulGoodman67posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                I think you are mistaken.
                
                I don't believe there were ever any profits. HP went to merge with Maven/TAG because they ran out of investors. They always lost money.
                
                TAG is doing better now than it was during its recent collapse but that doesn't mean that the HP part is doing any better.
                
                I believe TAG are rationalizing, cutting out the non-profitable while salvaging what they believe to be of worth.
                
                Over all, though, TAG is switching direction away from the textual and towards video etc.
                
                The entire medium is dying for a variety of reasons. But mainly because of the radical changes in online search and the increase in AI use.
                
                HP always relied on search engines and online queries for the vast majority of its traffic.
                
                While there are still millions of people using search engines to find websites to answer queries or other needs, no one wants to invest anymore because it's seen as something that's destined to die.

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                   DrMark1961posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                   I think you are correct in that there never were profits before TAG. I watched an interview with Paul Edmonson and Manoj Bhargava (the major shareholder for TAG) in which Bhargava makes a jab at Paul about profits. It was something like "unlike the bay area startups out here we are interested in profits". (That is paraphrased since I no longer have that interview on my PC.)
                   Yes, there are still many millions doing queries on search engines. Most of them, however, are only looking at the AI summary and not bothering to go through and read the articles anymore. (At least in my opinion.)

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                      tsmogposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                      Adding to just because. I don't know which interview you are referencing. I watched an interview with Paul E about record profits. Bhaargava and Paul have a short discussion.
                      
                      The Arena Group Posts 67% Revenue Growth with Record Profits (Aug 14, 2025)
                      https://investors.thearenagroup.net/new … rd-profits

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                         DrMark1961posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                         No, I had not seen that one yet. Thanks for posting.

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                   Kyler J Falkposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                   They're still killing the goose that laid golden eggs while seeking out another goose, and turning a profit for it. Everyone must keep in mind that profits to a layman and profits to an investor typically don't fall under the same definition. Investors need higher profits every quarter or year over year to see returns, and that kills large swathes of various industries left and right each year, and I say that's worthy of fighting against in any capacity big or small. 
                   
                   Would've made more sense to me that they just IP range ban all of the non-earners on HubPages, delete all dead-traffic articles, and inspire their golden goose to churn out more golden eggs that they could then make copies of ad nauseam going into the future. Instead they have slain the goose, continued to parasitize what is left, and shred any hope of long-term profits within the medium.
                   
                   Personal sites that host evergreen content are still ranking well above TAGs properties, and making a better profit than the HP social model. That alone tells me this site, if it were attractive to investors which it is no longer, could be/could've been saved AND turn profits.
                   
                   I don't know, don't really much care anymore than ensuring that TAGs antics are made public at this point. At least it'll serve as an example of ongoing failures and unethical practices on their part. Be good for future researchers and sleuths to touch on.
                   
                   We had a good run of it, I still make payout, time to lock it all away in a time capsule for posterity and purpose.

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                      Patty Inglish, MSposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                      Thanks, Kyler.

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                      Kenna McHughposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                      That is the perspective.

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                      PaulGoodman67posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                      "That alone tells me this site, if it were attractive to investors which it is no longer, could be/could've been saved AND turn profits"
                      
                      That's not how it works. Capitalism typically entails investors gambling on companies that they believe will eventually turn a profit. They will tolerate losses only while they believe there will be future profitability.
                      
                      Investors often get it wrong and gamble on a company that doesn't make a profit, especially in the tech world. They expect to lose as well as gain.
                      
                      I thought Paul Edmondson's YouTube interviews around the time of the Maven/TAG merger explained the economics of what was happening well, even if the HP version we got was sugarcoated.
                      
                      Paul E didn't join up with Maven/TAG through sheer greed, as some on here will have you believe. There was little choice, as the initial wave of investment had dried up and HP was losing money.
                      
                      They world has moved on since then, though.
                      
                      There are certainly issues with tech companies taking more and more money for themselves but that's not specifically a TAG issue. It's a wider political issue and the biggest offenders are the giant companies like Google, MS, Musk, etc. which have an inordinate amount of control.
                      
                      TAG are only a small-to-medium-sized player and they've always been subservient to the bigger companies like Google.
                      
                      I'm not saying that TAG has treated us well in the way that they've handled everything. The communications have been way too opaque and at times, misleading. It's been bad.
                      
                      But after they failed to rectify the problems raised by those algo changes two years ago, we were doomed.
                      
                      If you're still thinking in terms of website rankings ("evergreen content are still ranking well above TAGs properties") I suspect that you've not grasped the extent of the changes that are taking place in the tech world.
                      
                      It's the logic of someone in the early twentieth century saying that there are still some horses and carts running so that means that the cars won't take over and dominate.
                      
                      AI has radically altered everything. The entire landscape is changing.

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                         Kenna McHughposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                         There is no excuse for TAG's unscrupulous behavior. They are mining content, stealing content, and they know it's not ethical or legal. Vigilant writers have contacted TAG, and TAG immediately removed the article by the said writer.

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                            CYong74posted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                            Yup. And I bet TAG is betting on people giving up and keeping quiet.
                            
                            The world ending tomorrow doesn't mean it's anyone's obligation to be robbed. It's not sagacious. It's silly.

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                               Patty Inglish, MSposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                               Agreed.

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                         Kyler J Falkposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                         Regardless of the landscape changing, they never had anyone at the wheel who appeared to be an expert in SEO and page layouts. They did everything to be unattractive, and with the emphasis on this being a nearly no holds barred self-publishing site that bombards readers with ads the popularity and credibility declined.
                         
                         Though it's a pipe dream and purely hypothetical, I know this site could thrive well beyond where it stands with a community downsize, reformatting, and quality control via a minimum bi-monthly impression threshold for whichever authors aren't culled. There's still a market, I think there will always be one for this medium. I mean, shit, look at paperbacks and libraries, they're still around despite being a mostly-dead medium.   
                         
                         Nonetheless, I get where you're coming from and agree, but a man can find solace in his albeit delusional hopes and dreams, no?

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                            Kenna McHughposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                            Kyle, HP could have thrived on, but that is the problem for some businesses. They don't know how to continue thriving. A handful of writers offered advice many times, but HP ultimately did not follow any of it. It's not Google's fault, nor is it everyone else's. It's TAG's fault.

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                               Kyler J Falkposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                               Agreed.

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                                  Patty Inglish, MSposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

                                  Yes.

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       vrdmposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

       Thanks Kyler.  You sound very informed.  Very useful.  I've been swapping my pieces out 1 by 1 to my Wordpress site, but I was hoping to find a way of Batch Downloading the whole lot at once.  No luck as yet.  Am I missing something?  Is there such a facility as far as you're aware?

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    PaulGoodman67posted 2 weeks ago

    The viewing stats have been frozen for over six weeks,  I doubt that anybody is seeing increases.
    
    The earnings are working, of course. The cents are trickling in and I’m sure I’ll make payout in a few years!

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       Robert Sacchiposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

       Every few years has been par for the course for me.  It seems the changes they have been making favor low hit getters.

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    SANJAY LAKHANPALposted 2 weeks ago

    How can I save the content elsewhere, in case hubpages disappears some day.

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       Lorelei Nettlesposted 2 weeks agoin reply to this

       You can move your articles to Vocal Media or Medium.

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    Venkatachari Mposted 2 weeks ago

    Go to your Account page, click on the "author view" against each article. When it opens, right-click and select "save as PDF" or print mode to save the entire content. If the author's view is not available, click the edit button, select all, and save as PDF.

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    My Esotericposted 11 days ago

    Hubpages has slowed WAY down, I wonder if it's servers are crashing.

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       theraggededgeposted 10 days agoin reply to this

       More likely they've been appropriated. Matt's had to get his 1990s PC out of the garage and the whole HP site is clunking along on it.
       
       As I said elsewhere, it's going be almost impossible for people to rescue their articles now.

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          Kenna McHughposted 10 days agoin reply to this

          HP is the dregs.

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             Robert Sacchiposted 9 days agoin reply to this

             For what it's worth, the article scores have been changing.  It seems everything has been working but the hit counter.  It's one of those things that give the impression the solution would be something silly.

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                Kenna McHughposted 9 days agoin reply to this

                My stable datum with HP is that they are out of communication and not interested in helping the site improve.

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                   Robert Sacchiposted 8 days agoin reply to this

                   Just letting it continue until it breaks down completely?

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                      Kenna McHughposted 8 days agoin reply to this

                      It will become a ghost town.

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