The Subdomain Switch ...What's Happening with you?
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Traffics ok, considering I still need to work on my substandard hub,but NO clicks...
Somehow, traggic almost felt just right to me.
The weekend adds to the misery.. LOL .. grin and bear
or panda bear 
Well HP wrote me back saying there does not seem to be a specific reason for my decrease in page views.. and then referred me to the learning center. "Sigh" I give up!
Why flag hubs? If our sub-domains truly represent the individual writer, why should we police the work of others? Wasn't this the excuse for converting to the sub-domains, to allow each writer's work to stand alone?
Apparently it worked as my views fell from the highest to almost the lowest in a matter of hours. Sorry to have cluttered up the place so much for you non-plungers.No, I'm not wasting any more time cleaning up a mess which caused the first penalties here on HP. While many of us always tried to stay withing the rules set for us here, others were allowed to post misleading, spammy hubs which we all were punished for by Google.
Even after these embarrassing articles were pointed out to staff they seemed reluctant to remove them from the site. Of course coincidentally, these same hubs were pulling in millions of views and therefore money for HP. Hmmmm, is there a connection there? I think there is!
So, if HP wants to continue to allow crap on this site, they can clean it up themselves. Nothing personal, just business.
Thank you, rebekahELLE. I just sat through the whole thing without even getting up for more coffee.
(Haven't found anything that entertaining/enlightening for quite awhile.) It was just kind of nice to see to see some of those issues addressed by Google people themselves.
That is how mine went.. a 100% increase before it plunged to the lowest ever forget panda.. it is similar to when I started out here .. I will give it a couple of weeks to see if HP can even figure out what is up.. weeks.. ??????
Paul E needs to getting working faster than that..
I agree with you and Mutiny92 about there not being much to lose. The memorable title, "Been Down So Long It Looks Like Up To Me" comes to mind.
There's a lot to be said about your actions...you've been around for a long while and you know what you are doing.
Once could argue whether HP should even offer RSS and News feed capsules, but this place is still in the toddler stage, given where the Net is and where it could go.
Since we are now our own subdomains, maybe it's time to treat our HP portfolio as if it were its own website, relying on ourselves and not on any perceived SEO advantage HP might have lent in the past.This is what Ryan told me:
"@Marisa - Google uses ratios, and ... your ratio would be minute compared with those who have a full sized RSS feed on every single hub ...
Your duplicate content ratio would be calculated across your subdomain, and you have a lot of hubs, so easy to see why you weren't really affected"
Jean, you can have an awful lot of Blogger blogs, all free. (I have "a zillion", all in varying stages of development, just for the kind of separating of subjects that you have in mind. They're not even functioning the way blogs should be, but I had to first have a place to start writing (and sending subject-related writing); because I wanted them to have substance before "taking them to next level". I have a "central one" that's kind of a weird little dumping ground for miscellany, and that's one around which any others centered (while remaining completely separate).
It's not how "everyone" does things, so I'm not recommending that particular approach (or should I say non-method/non-approach..) (I do my own kind of thing, so Marissa can give you better tips when she shows up again. ) I just thought I'd let you know you can have lots of blogs, do what you want (within reason) with them, and not be charged (at least for now).
I'd get rid of them, but they've been around long enough that they've started to pick up some "spare change" and a little traffic here and there. I may still get rid of them, but I think instead I'll most likely create a whole new "packaging" (more professional) of my writing and intentionally bury them away from the "forefront" . If they show up in searches, great. Otherwise, they won't have the visibility they now have, because as it is right now, the whole bunch of them is just a "big, weird, deal". Every so often I've put them all on "private", but I don't like the drop in earnings when I do. I just figure, "perfect them, build on them, and the 'bury' them so they don't embarrass me any longer." I just thought, since you said you're not all that familiar with it, I'd give you some examples of what you shouldn't do () or else what you might want to do (only better and more completely than I've done with my half-baked approach). (I spread my spare time too thin, so I have a real mess on my hands now as far as having a bunch of "weirdness", in terms of online writing, goes.) My real point here is that there's a lot of flexibility with what you do, and Google doesn't seem to particularly care if you started a blog in 2007 and it's still only in "beginning stages" in today. (As they say, Rome wasn't built in day. 
)
Besides the ones I have up, I have a couple that are better but not yet public; and I've deleted a couple that I really hated (trying to trim the number without losing the ones with potential).
Izzy, it IS discouraging, and I got to where I said "I give up" too. On a brighter note, though, over the time since I first made some "massive" discoveries (and couldn't even begin to imagine the work it would take to see what I hadn't yet discovered), some of those "situations" as the one you mentioned have apparently been righted by Google (at least for now). I've seen seen pages (and sometimes pages) of my stolen stuff still published in some weird publication somewhere, and I've seen whole "secret-identity" blogs, that have stolen/scraped my stuff; but with some of it, a person would actually have to search the x lines of text before ever finding it; so that's all I can care about.
In reality, I haven't really "given up", but I'm doing things a whole lot differently now. This is one reason I jumped on the Google's authorship thing right away. That won't take care of some stuff, but I do think (especially as time goes on) that it will act as substantial deterrent in a number of different ways. (Honestly.. I got so where I didn't want my stuff to end up on the first search page!). I got through my own particularly big "I-give-it-up" phase, but I did learn from it; and I keep figuring out ways to safeguard against at least some of the crap.) (I once thought that aiming to write the kind of stuff "nobody would want to steal" was one way to minimize that crap. They'll steal ANYTHING! 
) Anyway, don't get too discouraged. Necessity is the mother of invention.
In any case, anyone who has discovered how impossible it can seem/be to find what may be - like - 80% of their own stolen stuff discovers that it can get so bad we can't even get our heads around it. (Maybe THAT would explain some of the drops in traffic for people who have excellent Hubs. Maybe, it took a few weeks into the subdomain switch before people figured out ways to take advantage of something that could (I don't know if it does) actually be facilitating some types of theft.)
I am so proud of you Mark.
... And a little disappointed too, for not lightening and brightening this cold mine?!, with your ever uplifting way of looking at things on the lighter side.
Warm Regards
I would love to know the origin of the phrase "heading south"
I live in south of some place, and I ain't doing bad.I don't know the origin but it seems to mean that things are headed for the worst, since south is an to acronym for downwards, like on the maps. The ancient Greeks actually considered south as being UP as the sun was their primary point. Facing the equator, south was UP and north was DOWN.
A.k.a. the dead cat bounceGlad to see you are increasing, and 30% is great
Interesting observations about my openness, but I know someone else here who doesn't ever mention their stats on the forums, but whose stats have been similar to mine all along, and who has also become a plunger.
Their work is also copied all over the net, of course finding copied work is easy now that our hubs have mainly disappeared from view.
I have about 5/7 hubs holding my whole subdomain together and giving me views. The rest are dead as dodos.
Not much for me either. Google or HP is responsible, in my opinion.
Although my hits haven't fallen in count, I haven't made a cent in Adsense or my Amazon sales in weeks.
I'm just going to let my hubs sit and not do a d*mn thing with them, and I'm also not adding any new ones, even though I have several that I wanted to do...
I don't want to give up on this place, and I won't, but I am not encouraged to do anything at the moment, so I'll work on other things for awhile...and watch to see what happens on here.
I hope someone figures something out soon...for all of us!Same here. Why are some affected and some not? So far no one knows. My Google traffic is almost non-existent now. I consider this almost criminal because of the money it is costing those of us who diligently tried to follow the rules put down by both HP and Google. Too bad we don't have anyone to tell us what we did wrong.
I suppose that's why my best hubs have visitors who say my RV articles are the best on the internet for good advice and are also easy for the DIY RV owner to follow. These people link my articles for me, but I suppose Google had rather have artificial links instead. I would like to be out from under Google completely if it is possible. Go Bing and Yahoo! No comment on your opinion of my writing style. Nor on yours either.
I started to put Paul's advice in to action. I started to rewrite my hubs that were keyword stuffed and honestly poorly written. But I decided to Google them before I unpublish them. And I found this : hxxp://www.zimbio.com/Furniture+101/articles/_yaax1ssNsL/Best+PC+Gaming+Chair - the exact copy of my hubs 'Best PC Gaming Chair'. I wrote the hub while I was taking English courses and learning English. And it is very poorly written so copying it is quite pathetic. Although I copied two sentences from Cnet myself
, but those hubs are unpublished now.
How to report a content thief to Google?
Thank you in advance!Well, I'm not a plunger at the moment, but I'm not an earner either.
I am very attuned to grammar and style. Unfortunately, this seems to make little difference to success. Someone who crows a lot about earnings here produces hubs that I consider to be semi-literate and valueless...
and I don't mean you, Izzy!!!
We can use our imaginations and make it up, writeangled
My sexy cat is going to get an overhaul telling the story of when I turned into a cat, or perhaps I was attacked by a cat, something like that.
It has to be a sexy cat of course! Might even have been an alien sexy cat, or even a sheep in a cat costume which brings a new twist to the old story about a wolf in sheep's clothing.Purely personal Hubs ("I went to work today and had lunch with Deb...") are not allowed. However, adding a relevant personal dimension to an informative Hub is most definitely allowed and always has been; it's actually encouraged, now more than ever.
The bar we've used is "Would this be interesting or useful to someone who doesn't already know you?" If you can answer that in the affirmative, then it is within our rules.
"Google is playing editor, so the hope is understanding what their algorithm considers quality."
YES - we need to understanding this.
"I'm seeing significant correlation between accounts doing much better where people rate the Hubs noticeably higher when I read it to them."
NO - this is not helpful - It is subjective. There may be a correlation but this does not establish a cause and effect. It does not provide advice that anyone can follow. I think it is presumptuous to blame the authors when the turmoil of the subdomain shift is is still raging, especially when everyone is doing this, then doing that, then doing this again (linking, RSS, duplication, etc., etc.). It is a cop out to say in the current climate that the good authors do well and the poor authors do badly. Clearly many of the best authors have been badly hit - it is wrong to label their hubs as being of poor quality as there are likely to be many reasons including the turmoil of the subdomain shift. Your advice to read the hubs out loud is unhelpful as it clearly does not relate to what Google actually uses is judge quality - this is what we need advice about.
On a positive note it is good to see Lazarus rising! Time is the cure!
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