I recently saw a show on the history channel that was about Nostradamus and his predictions for the end of the world. It also spoke of the Mayans prediction and how other religions back up the theory in their own way and all those theories conclude that the end of the world will be Dec 21, 2012.
Could it be possible that the government has evidence that this will occur but is hiding it from us? In my opinion, nothing is going to happen in 2012, and I do beleive that the government knows somenthing about our planet deteriorating but they're just painting a pretty picture for us,assuring us that there is a solution but there isnt and is kind of scary. Let us unite and survive anything that mother nature might bring our way. Im ready for anything. How about you?
What's your opinion on these predictions? Do you beleive that we will all die like in the movie 2012? Do you believe that the government has some kind of salvation for us?
Absolutely not. Anything designed to put fear in us and gives us a false sense of hopeless future is wrong and should be avoided. Doom was not part of our design. We should, however, live each moment of each day as if it were our last in mortality. In other words we should make haste to improve our attitudes, foundations of faith, charity, raising of children, family history work and much much more. Those are the things that give us purpose and a bright sense of future, not indulging in and debating the "end of the world."
I know, it's fun though..
This is for the non- beleiver who say thisis just another day. Every time the moon and sun align for a solar eclipse they cause extra gravitational strain on Earth, these have been known to correlate rather well with earthquakes and other seismic activities. On this day Dec. 21, 2012 it has been proven that our sun will align and eclispe the center of the galaxy. Which happens to be an ENORMOUS SOURCE of gravitational energy. Powerful enough to keep our sun in orbit thousands of light years away. The supermassive blackhole out weighs anything in our galaxy by a million times. There will be strain similar to that at the solar eclispe only this time the sun behaves like the moon and the supermassive blackhole behaves like the sun. But yes only god will know what or when anything as unpredictable as seismic events will actually occur. I am just saying it could happen than or shortly after.
I have wondered ? Is that black hole far enough away, and is the sun big enough that the sun could be said to eclipse the earth from the black hole?
And If so would that not block out some of that gravitational pull just a tiny bit?
Probably a stupid question? Something that I have wondered a few times.
Do you have any evidence of this alignment, I have heard it a few times now and have always thought that calenders like the Mayan which are based on astronomy would know this alignment - and put it at the end of their calendar.
Only God knows when THIS world will end.
If we want to know where we are going all that is necessaty is to see where we have come from.. look at where we are at. Project that path into the future and we will see where we are going to arrive.
If you do not like what we see... change course if possible
i dont think world would end 2012..in worst case human species might end some day but does that mean world would end?..some other species might enter the scene..till sun is there and earth environment is feasible for life it would continue..
exactly... And as far as humanity is concerned ?
Why do we believe that this realm of reality is the only one that exists. I think that if mankind is to truly evolve ?? ? it can't be done in this realm.
Kinda like the caterpillar and butterfly thing.
The individual caterpillars’ world must come to an end in order for the butterfly to begin its journey.
Hi friend mlizardo2010
It is correct that the End Times is there; and that is why the advent of the End Time Reformer as prophesied by all revealed Religions has taken place in the symbolic form of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad 1835-1908- the Promised Messiah, Second Coming of Jesus, Krishna , Buddha, Zoroaster, Imam Mahdi etc.
There will be no end of the world on Dec 21, 2012; rest assured.
I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
It won't be the end of the world it's just fear mongering. But I believe something will happen though I don't doubt that. It's being hyped to much by the corporate media and the elites.
Over a period of many years there have been the nay sayers and the negative folks . This is merely emphasis on the negative. I can remember seeing TV pic's of some guy standing in time square wearing a sandwich board warning all those who pass by about the end being near. That would have been the mid 60's and most of us are still here.LOL
Living your life fear of the end only deprives you of the quality of life you could enjoy. There will always be the negative people in this world.
There was also a period of time when building bomb shelaters became an obsession with a few Americans. We will all be nuked any day!!
This is merely a new reach for publicity on behalf of a few who have interrepted some very old writings. If they are right we will know in 2012. If they are wrong we will have a very good Christmas in 2012. I would like to wish one and all a very Merry Christmas.
Well, i haven't read all the posts so don't know what other people said, but what I do know is that the trouble with Nostradamus is in the translation of his work, irrespective of whether his premonitions were correct or not. People have tried to translate his words, yet have they done this accurately? And many of the translations are still pretty vague. I had a book once, that I borrowed from my boss - and even the book was not very precise.
I really do not believe the end of the world will be in 2012!
I believe its more the end of this age and the heralding of a new age of mass enlightenment.
The story of ending this world in 2012 is completely baseless. It is nothing but just a publicity stunt to promote the movie 2012.
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December 21, 2012 will be my 62 birthday. I have wondered about the Mayan prediction and Nostodamus predicition for a long time. Though not looking forward to the end of the world it might be a fitting conclusion to a what the hell am I doing here life. I live in a country where its purpose is to spread revolution and has been doing so since the day I was born. I can not remember a time when an uncle, a cousin, classmate or myself was not involved in some overseas conflict. It is even true today. We are the new Mayans, the big kahouna of the new world. The end in 2012 is plausable as nations look at us as more as a threat than as a savior. The shovels of the peace core, vista, job core have been long melted into gun barrels. Fanatics plot ways to destroy us. Some us live in fear, waiting for the next 9-11, while some over throw governments trying to prevent it and in doings so create another enemy.
I believe (in accordance to ancient Sanskrit prophecies), that the world ended in 1969 with the formation of that band "Sha Na Na".
What we are currenty living in is 'Hell".. which would explain my Adsense Revenue totals.
Seriously, even the Mayans don't think the world is going to end end in 2012. My understanding is that their calendar will just reset.
(Of course, that may be a cataclysmic event for the folks to have to carve those big darn rock-hewn calendars...)
LOL Greek hehe,
I dont know about 2012, I have many things that I am thinking so I dont dwell on that day futuristic thinking in that kind of way
If it ends? You mean if you end. We are not so important to the earth!
End of the world in 2012? Let's see isn't the axis of rotation of a planet supposed to undergo a shift resulting in gobal catastrophes and destruction. Oh wait, that was my 4th marriage... never mind.
Actually, (funny joke btw to) but the Earth axis did shift with the Chile earthquake in .... March 2010. It was pretty significant as far as I know, about 3 degrees but not a lot of catastrophe just bad marriages.
Well I'm certain we're all going to die! I doubt it will happen to us all at once regardless of the year. I don't think the government has any knowledge in that regard that they aren't sharing. That kind of information would be generated by the scientific community and it would be next to impossible to keep it totally secret.
Bring it on. We won't have to listen to that Justin Beiber kid anymore hopefully.
The boys over at NASA tackled this one - turns out it's all hype.
I'm inclined to believe them - after all they've been to the moon.
Or have they?
Beat that, Mayans!
These Mayans everyone refers to....where are they now? They could predict our demise but not their own?
We've been to the moon????
The Mayan's did not believe it was the end of the world, just the end of the world as we know it. They actually refer to December 21, 2012 as "Creation Day". I believe we are at the beginning stage of great catastrophic changes.
IF the world is ending, I can't stop it, so I am going to go on with my life.
wait a minute!! why is this under marijuana use? thats funny...
maybe the OP was under the influence when posting.
I'm sure it will come and go like 1-1-2000.
there are already changes taking place. life continues to evolve.
too bad so many focus on these kind of predictions and miss living their lives now...
I will be gutted. The house will only just be finished and I won't have had time to enjoy it. If the worlds really ending in a couple of years, I want to max out the credit cards and see the world - pleasure without fear of the financial consequences! Every time I phone my sister and complain about the rennovations she says ' Why bother, the worlds ending soon anyway.' Where would we be with that attitude huh? Well in my case, probably a lot more chilled out. Dam!
I guess it is going to happen when it happens. I seriously don't dwell on it, I am having too much fun today.
BP has a good spirit!!
I don't want it to end, but hey, what can you do?
The end of the world will not happen today, it's already tomorrow in Australia!
So I guess I need to go to Australia so the world will never end!
That one went way over my head LMAO.
But honestly if you want to know what happens tomorrow for you, just ask me. I can tell you one day in advance if the world has ended.
that will work! Good theory. It will always be tomorrow!
"It is the end of the world as we know it and I don't mind!" People been predicting the end for quite sometime now, and it still keeps spinning around! It all bunch of hype...however IF we live every day like it will be our last I believe we would be better off...
I've seen enough of those end-of-the-world-predicted-by-someone-or-another days come and go that I'm not spinning my wheels over this next one. One of these "fine days" people will stop paying attention to the "spooky" junk other people wrote hundreds or thousands of years ago, when they only had guesses and imagination to go on.
The world ends every minute for the dying and begins every minute for the born.
Just like stars....just like planets.
Chicken Little's clucking about the falling sky....never ends.
"IF" we say that we believe the bible; we have to believe that prophesy will be fulfilled when it says that it will be fulfilled!
This is why scripture does give us the answer as to WHEN these prophesy will be fulfilled!
All that ya gotta do is to quit "interpreting" scripture to say what ya want them to say. Then you will see them for what they say.
How easy is that??
This is my hub about it:)
Merlin (or King Arthur) is supposed to have left a load of prophesies. Given that (even if such things existed and actually got into print for me to see them) they were interesting.
They talked about a snake twisting all round Britain then diving under the Severn and raising its head in Wales - where Merlin is still celebrated as a historic entity in Caer Myrthyn - Merlin town. I thought of the rail system when I read it which does exactly that.
He also prophesied that when an oak was cut down the city would flood, they actually kept the oak stump until quite recently because of the prophesy - removing it for a housing development of course and the city certainly flooded that year.
Merlin is also supposed to have prophesied the end of the world as a series of extreme natural disasters the stars 'moving' in the heavens - he said "dropping down". This would indicate the world turning in a different motion perhaps ? Kind of ties in with all the other prophesies in a way -
Here is my hub about it,
http://hubpages.com/hub/Has-the-END-of- … -End-Times
This is part 1 from Matthew 24:
Personally, I think too much energy is given to this idea.
I think, however, if we are bent on something ending, let's plan a Walmart-going-out-of -business party.
Or an Ethical-Reform-in-Banking-Practices party. Or better yet, The-End-Of-Goldman-Sachs-and-Every-Money-Machine-And-Government-Like-It party.
It may or may not be true and all I know is I'll be ^$^& my fiance all day just incase it's true! go out f%$%%^&n lol
Will we have to turn off all of our computers and hire lots of consultants to overcome this problem like we did at the turn of the millennium?
Lies. 2012 will not be the end. It will be the beginning of a glorious new age of prosperity.
the world will end one day, that we know, the sun will eventually die. The Mayans give a date of 2012 as the end of a world cycle, of which they had many if my memory serves me well. Nostradamus, Old Mother Shipton (or Skipton depending on which tale you hear) or uncle Tom Cobley n all, it's not worth worrying about, the world ends or it doesn't, and there's not a jot any of us can do about it.
The earth will not end. We may be invaded by a large species that will come for the human harvest to take and eat us like sardines!
Pure and simple hogwash. The world will end when it ends and nobody can possibly know when that will be.
In 2012 the world as we know it will end. I don't know how I am going to do it but I am going to destroy both alternative and western conventional medicine by exposing the truth about the human immune system and immune response.
I don't think anyone will disagree that the end of medicine and pharmaceutical companies will end the world as we know it. I assume it will be a better world but for the rich and wealthy today it might be a little ugly.
2012 the year for cures and the end of medicine and medical science!
1 - people like Nostradamus have got more wrong than they have right. His 'prophecies' can be interpreted in a number of ways and are usually quite non specific.
2 - If you subscribe to the Mayan long count calender theory, if they were THAT good why didn't they predict their own demise?
3 - If you prefer the reversal of the magnetic poles theory, this happens gradually over thousands of years, not overnight.
4 - The 21st of Dec 2012 is the day before my birthday, i will not be amused if i dont get my party.
If the world is ending soon, I can stop worrying about our retirement and enjoy the money we have been trying to save for it. But then what if it doesn't end and we will have nothing - geez this is frustrating!!
Be prepared for the worst and hope for the best. That is what a lawyer always says!
I think that the best case scenario is that I get to rest from my labors and my works do follow me.
If my works do not account for much then they will count for more than nothing???????????????
Maybe I'll be emptying out houses in Heaven???? I HopeI like doing that?
It is me that I'm worried about; Me liking it or not,
I think that it is better to be honest… ? At least with yourself!
the only part of Christianity I truly believe:
world without end, amen, amen!
My vote is for sooner than 2012. Noah's angels are all over our ass, we're ripe for the picking our sins in full bloom and show about everywhere. Lies about God are everywhere. Money is God, no money no life. Ya can't harldy wipe ya ass without permission of some regulating body,and we've damn near wiped out the animals along with the sea critters too !! All that means that Lot must be right around the corner !!! Plus remember Jesus said he was one sneaky dude. Everyone is to be caught with their pants down. Show up early I say and pray .
What's your vote ???
While many predict the end to be near...I'm sure there will be a lot of milk and bread sold, gas etc.
Many like me look to the future with high hopes. Nasa will test the new Aries rocket that will carry the Orion to the International Space station, the moon and eventually the inner planets.
Kevin Costner will clean up the oil spill.
The economy will recover and technology will help win the battle against cancer.
World terrorism will go the way of the cold war and gatoraid will develop another flavor.
I just don't see it happening.
look at all the hype when we were going into the year 2000 everyone thought the world would reset back to 1900. I worked in a bank then and we took all the precautions we could to keep all of the accounts up to date. When the year rolled to 2000 nothing happened.....everything stayed the same.
Enjoy life day by day because you never know when the end is coming. Stop worrying about 2012 live for today.
The world as we "now it" will end. A paradigm shift is coming. But this is not new phenomena. Each generation sits and awaits the "end times" instead of consciously doing something to prevent it!
I wrote a hub about this 2 days ago. The date of 21.12.2012 is supposed to be the end of the 13th 'bakt'un on the Mayan calendar, which started 3114 BC on our modern calendar. This was the date the Maya believed was the birth of Venus and the beginning of creation. But we all know that that date is way out, so why should we take notice of the 'end' date? They were a bunch of primitive jungle dwelling savages who ripped babies' hearts out to 'please' their gods. They hadn't even grasped to concept of the wheel. Why would we believe anything they said. And... they didn't even invent the calendar in the first place - it was the Olmecs
Your primitive savages sound just like mid-western christians
and you are wrong. They made advances in calendar science that came from a past far more distant than the Olmecs - to the point where just do not know. Stonehenge is a calendar on the other side of the world from about the same time in very rough terms.
Your description of their civilization based on "ripping baby's hearts out" is a trifle misleading for a nation that made roads, had a government, etc etc - it is a bit like describing the whole of american 'civilization' as a nation that bombs other nations.
Well don't they? what about Iraq, Afghanistan ...........! Ooh Poet, you're opening up a can of worms here. And if you do your homework you'll discover that they DID rip babies hearts out, whether or not they built roads. As for the Olmecs, there are many conflicting opinions regarding the origins of the calendar, but to my reckoning, they can't have quite grasped the concept of time if they needed three calendars, where one would have sufficed. and if they were so clever, why didn't they forsee their own demise?
I have often wondered if human sacrifices were nothing more than a form of population controll.
They sacrifised those from neighboring tribes, War prisoners,and whoever they wanted to get rid of.
Food preservation just might have been a part of these sacrifices.
Kinda like abortions are today. population controll
I'm not speaking pro or con on this issue .. But ...
what would the population of the USA or the the world be today if none of those babies were aborted? Remember that some of those babies would have been making babies for several decades now.
I'm not speaking for or against abortion Just asking a question????
Where would the population be if these women who found themselves pregnant had kept their legs closed in the first place? Or, at least used some reliable form of contraception. There would be no need for abortion then, except in dire medical circumstances. I don't think they worried about things like 'population control' , considering their life-span was only 45-50 years.
That is true too..
There is never only one reason for any behaveior like this.
But for mu question how many abortions have been done and how many of those children would have had babies? That would make a substancial diffrence upon the world today.
I can see where whoever was in controll of the food storehouses knowing how long they would last feeding X number of people for Y period of time being conscerned with the size of population. Certainly not feed prisoners of war when there is already a food shortage. During times of plenty there would not being so many sacrifises. Might keep those prisoners as slaves.
This might be but one of many reasons that they did it.
I read a book recently that talked about 2012 - according to these folks - the Mayan calendar is based on the movement of the constellation Pleiades. Their calendar apparently started when that constellation first appeared on the horizon. According to their calendar the Pleiades will drop below the horizon not to be seen again on planet earth after the December date. They did not believe that the world would end - only that a new era would begin upon the earth as many have before - Southwest Indians of the U.S. also believe that the earth has gone through phases -
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