Copying Site... Beware

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  1. North Wind profile image84
    North Windposted 7 years ago

    For those of you who use Firefox and their add on "Wot" remember you can rate the site according to trustworthiness etc. If many people vote this site down it will trigger a warning to Firefox users so that they will think twice before entering the site.If the site is voted up then it will receive an excellent "Wot" reputation. Right now as far as I type the site has no "Wot" rating at all.

    1. profile image0
      jenuboukaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Good to know North Wind Adding it now!

  2. rmr profile image77
    rmrposted 7 years ago

    Looks like the guy guy owns another site, called Ezinemark. I haven't looked around that one yet.

    1. profile image0
      jenuboukaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Oh great, I don't have the energy to even think what is there.

    2. cloverleaffarm profile image77
      cloverleaffarmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      It looks much more legit than this one. It has pictures of people, and I searched for a bit, and didn't see copies of hubs I know.

  3. oceansnsunsets profile image85
    oceansnsunsetsposted 7 years ago

    Wow, this is quite horrifying that they are taking hubs from here as they are being published, and seeming to get away with it!

    Very very discouraging, but I would still rather know than not know.

  4. SmartAndFun profile image94
    SmartAndFunposted 7 years ago

    There haven't been many new hubs showing up on my feed today and I'm wondering if this is why! We need to get this thing shut down so we can all get back to work.

  5. oceansnsunsets profile image85
    oceansnsunsetsposted 7 years ago

    Now I know how everyone here feels officially, I found several, four at least so far and I have hardly looked.  This is really bad.  Word for word, photos, everything.  Several different "authors" stealing my recent work.

  6. FatFreddysCat profile image95
    FatFreddysCatposted 7 years ago

    These bastards got me, too... after seeing all the comments and this forum thread I wandered around BigEzine for a while and found a Hub that I just posted yesterday, copied word-for-word right down to the photos. Son of a @#$%!!! I have already started firing off e-mails to the proper authorities. Let's bring these dinguses down!!!

    1. gqgirl profile image83
      gqgirlposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I to emailed them. but it's been a while and I still haven't heard back!

      1. Marisa Wright profile image96
        Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Read the thread. Emailing them won't do any good.

  7. sunforged profile image67
    sunforgedposted 7 years ago

    For future assistance:

    I often included a small copyright notice with certain text in my hubs

    Not because I thought it kept anyone from stealing it - but rather it helped me to find the unique phrases I used, without the tedium of typing in my own titles.

    Then, rather than use the possible sites search engine, I could rely on google for assistance by using the site operator

    so for example:

    site:bigezine.com "hubpages"

    (put that into google and you should see 383 articles that certainly came from Hubpages)

    Now if you had a unique identifier in your hubs - some odd turn of phrase or such - lets say it was "magenta turkey feeder"

    You could set up a google alert that scanned for that term - then you are notified when one of your articles containing that phrase is indexed.

    Now, I didnt pick the term Hubpages, just for fun ...

    HubPages doesnt have the legal power to attack the site for your works, as you are the rights holders ..

    But, they certainly can and should for their own content .. they have a Lawyer on staff or call I'm sure ..

    so: http://education.bigezine.com/the-hubpa … 42077.html

    now, Hubpages.com has the full legal right to pursue that site and the rest of you can benefit from their effective takedown of the site.

    1. lobobrandon profile image91
      lobobrandonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      They even copied that!!

      1. homesteadbound profile image84
        homesteadboundposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        I have found 5 of their hubs that have been copied so far!

        1. lobobrandon profile image91
          lobobrandonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Oh! I guess there should be a way to stop the feed right? Its just hubbers who use it and I'm sure none of us are as dependent on them as that crazy site! So, until they're down I guess we should stop it. Why take the risk and let more hubs get copied? It would just harm them and potentially the subdomains too?

          1. Cardisa profile image91
            Cardisaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Brandon, they even copied a hub that is thrashing them...lol

  8. Daughter Of Maat profile image93
    Daughter Of Maatposted 7 years ago

    I just posted a hub that I hope bigezines copies... just because of the last sentence.
    http://daughterofmaat.hubpages.com/hub/ … o-I-Do-Now

    It also includes research I've just finished on copyrights and the rights for intellectual property. It doesn't encompass all copyright law, but there are a few ideas to deter would-be thieves. As for our current situation, sunforged is right. Hubpages now has legal recourse, it's all dependant on whether or not they will act on it.

  9. lobobrandon profile image91
    lobobrandonposted 7 years ago

    Is there a way to stop the feed from updating?

  10. sunforged profile image67
    sunforgedposted 7 years ago

    Hubpages "feeds" dont display full copies of an article, the site is not(likely) using a feed to scrape HP.

    They just send a little bot over to do it for them.

    That could be identified and blocked based on its behaviour, but it would be quite difficult considering the amount of traffic this site has and all the little friendly bots that often visit

    1. gqgirl profile image83
      gqgirlposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Well I know it's a pain because my hub that got copied is now showing up here as a duplicate! Burns my bubble!

      1. cloverleaffarm profile image77
        cloverleaffarmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Which is why HubPages should do something to help fix it. This, and many other reasons. Luckily, I have my own blog. If this happens, I will just copy and paste out of here.

        1. Evylyn Rose profile image65
          Evylyn Roseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          That's my game plan. I've already mapped out how I can rearrange my website to incorporate most of my hubs when I unpublish them and started looking into other avenues for the other hubs. I'm going to give until the end of the week and see how this situation turns out. I love all of you guys and most certainly would stay in touch, but I'm not about to give HP any more of my content with the way they are handling this situation.

    2. lobobrandon profile image91
      lobobrandonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Hmm thanks for the info.

  11. coolcash4live profile image60
    coolcash4liveposted 7 years ago

    It is very sad when people steal contents from other source without giving credit to the owner. This is a bad karma

    1. amithak50 profile image60
      amithak50posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Yeah ..This is happening and we need to send messages like DMCA,contacting the owner of the site

  12. Judi Bee profile image92
    Judi Beeposted 7 years ago

    The fact that BigEzine's first article on their homepage today is a stolen hub all about how they are a bunch of plagiarists is causing me a little bit of amusement today!

    1. Redwall profile image59
      Redwallposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      At this point I didn't feel their website could fail any further, guess I was wrong lol

    2. Uninvited Writer profile image81
      Uninvited Writerposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      That is funny, we should get 20 or 30 people to write hubs slamming them smile

      1. oceansnsunsets profile image85
        oceansnsunsetsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        I would add a hub for that!

        1. stephhicks68 profile image89
          stephhicks68posted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Same here!  LOL!  I have a hub that I have been working on for several days that I just cannot bring myself to finish/publish because it will get stolen right away. 

          I can put together a quick hub on stolen content and publish that instead.  Of course, without backlinks.  wink

          1. cloverleaffarm profile image77
            cloverleaffarmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            I did that yesterday, and I have not seen it there. I think I am insulted...lol.

      2. amithak50 profile image60
        amithak50posted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Very right ..smile

      3. Marisa Wright profile image96
        Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Oh, please don't encourage them UW!  Every new Hub about them just gives That Site extra backlinks and more traffic.

    3. FatFreddysCat profile image95
      FatFreddysCatposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      For real? Haha!! That makes me feel a little better about being sniped by these hosers. It also seems to indicate that if they're not even policing the content they steal, then they're too stupid to stay in business for very long...

  13. oceansnsunsets profile image85
    oceansnsunsetsposted 7 years ago

    This all is a huge game changer for me.  It changes everything I think about publishing on HubPages, they stole more than just several of my hubs. 

    It is hard to put into words how I feel about this kind of theft being allowed to go on.

    1. homesteadbound profile image84
      homesteadboundposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      oceansnsunsets - don't let this steal your drive and momentum. This could happen to anyone writing on any site, not just HubPages. We as writer's just need to do what we should do to get them closed down. Hubpages cannot do it for us - we have to do it.
      It is hard, and it is frustrating I know, I have had at least 10 of mine taken, but don't let them steal your joy of writing.

      1. oceansnsunsets profile image85
        oceansnsunsetsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Thanks Homesteadbound, and what do you suggest is the best thing to do?  File complaints with Google, is that the very best thing?  It sounds like some things work, others don't.  Curious if you would share what you are doing when you say, "We have to do it."  Thanks so much for any help.

        1. homesteadbound profile image84
          homesteadboundposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          This is what I have done so far. I have filed  DMCA complaints as Jason Menayan has suggested on page two of this thread (see blue box).  I have not heard back on any of them, but I can only hope they are being showered with these things and will eventually shut them down. this was the link he suggested:

          http://hubpages.com/learningcenter/how- … -complaint

          Be sure to "Click on that link and choose "Web Search" radio button."

          The second thing I have done is to contact SoftLayer, the host firm for BigEzine and send an email to abuse@soft​layer.com

          using the following format:

          I am writing to you to avail myself of my rights under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA). This letter is a Notice of Infringement as authorized in §512 of the U.S. Copyright Law.

          1. The copyrighted work at issue is the text that appears on:

          ######THE_URL_OF_YOUR-HUB#######

          2. The URLs where my copyrighted material is located include:

          ##LINK OF STOLEN MATERIAL#####

          3. My contact information is as follows:

          ##YOUR NAME##
          ##YOUR MAILING ADDRESS##
          ##YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS##

          4. I have a good faith belief that use of the copyrighted materials described above as allegedly infringing is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law.

          5. I swear, under penalty of perjury, that the information in the notification is accurate and that I am the copyright owner or am authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed.

          ##YOUR NAME##"


          This must be the correct format (filling in the appropriate information of course), because the first one where I did not use this format was rejected by them.

          So far that is all I know to do. But as I find out more, I am trying to share with as many people as possible.

          I have not published anymore articles myself, but I am having to rebuild my company's worksite this week so I have not had time to write either. I will continue to write, not sure about publishing, but I do believe if enough people do what needs to be done, this will be resolved.

          It also would not hurt to visit their site and contact hubbers whose work has been copied and let them know what to do. I have contacted over 150 hub owners to let them know that their material has been stolen so they can take these actions also.

          I have done this for each hub that I have found to be copied.
          Hope this helps!

          1. TheInspiredLife profile image77
            TheInspiredLifeposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            When I sent this to abuse@softlayer.com I got a message back telling me to send it to copyright@softlayer.com...you may want to go ahead and send one off there.

            1. homesteadbound profile image84
              homesteadboundposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              Thanks, TheInspiredLife! I will spread the word.

          2. oceansnsunsets profile image85
            oceansnsunsetsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Homesteadbound, thank you very much.  I had not seen the other comments you mentioned, though I have seen so many.
            You did indeed help, thank you so much!  Thanks to Inspired Life too, for sharing where they said to send a complaint also.

            1. homesteadbound profile image84
              homesteadboundposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              Your welcome, Together we will lick this issue!

      2. Evylyn Rose profile image65
        Evylyn Roseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        What bugs me about this statement is that HubPages' content has also been stolen by this site. Don't get me wrong, I understand they cannot do anything for our individual hubs we've written, but I'm concerned about whether or not they have done anything for the content they hold copyrights over that are being stolen. Perhaps they are and just haven't made an announcement. If not, though, it's extremely disheartening to be told we have to jump through all these hoops when they aren't. Shouldn't HubPages be standing right along with us in this as their work is being treated exactly the same way?

        I don't know if I want my writing associated with a company that won't join the people who build it up (the writers producing content for them) in defending our rights. We should ALL be filing DMCA complaints and helping each other navigate the proper way to do so, and that includes HubPages. This situation isn't making me lose motivation to write. I've run a website for 9 years and this is not the first time my work has been plagiarized. What this situation is doing, however, is making me lose motivation to publish my writing on HubPages.

        1. homesteadbound profile image84
          homesteadboundposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Evylyn Rose - I can't help but believe that they are doing what they need to do to protect themselves and are standing with us. They have much on their plate, in addition to dealing with unexpected issues like this. From all of the tools and training they provide, I feel that they do care about their writers and their site. They therefore will do what they need to do to protect their investment.

          1. Evylyn Rose profile image65
            Evylyn Roseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            homesteadbound, I hope that you're right. Unfortunately, that's not the feedback those of us who have raised concerns are getting. I love the community here at HubPages. You are all awesome. But I don't like that we are being left to handle this when HubPages is also being plagiarized. It's like they are leaving it to us to do the work for them when, if they did care, they would have at least one representative standing and fighting this battle with us. When things like this come up, a business has to rearrange some priorities. Letting something like this sit can cause more problems in the long run making even more work for them in the future.

            Yes, they do provide some great tools that are convenient. But that's it: They are convenient. Any one of us is just as capable of starting up our own websites and blogs and adding all these features in ourselves. Some of us are even html/java/other coding savvy enough to do it from scratch and completely on our own. As for networking, look at us! We already made a wonderful group for writers that includes more than just HubPages outside of here. HubPages offers convenience, but are they offering real service?

            There's no right or wrong in choosing to stay or go. For me, however, I don't see why I should let any of the revenue my writing earns go to a company that doesn't care about me beyond making it easier for me so I write more and quicker to bring in even more revenue. A business should not let the fact that they need to earn money go unnoticed (if they aren't earning money, then they can't stay in business), but they also should not lose sight of the community on a personal level. In HubPages' case, the community is their backbone and without us, they would fall flat. Putting an issue like this on the back burner doesn't help anyone.

            1. Jason Menayan profile image60
              Jason Menayanposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              We can not. We don't own your Hubs, and under the law, we can not file DMCA complaints on your behalf. All we can do is point you in the right direction about how to go about the process. Other sites, like Demand Media, do, but they own that content (the authors don't). That's a key difference.

              It's worth mentioning that a no-authority site like this one that has only copied content will not outrank your original content in Google search results. If a high-authority site were suddenly copying your Hubs, I would be concerned and take action (i.e. file DMCA complaints). But that's not happening.

              1. TheInspiredLife profile image77
                TheInspiredLifeposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                Is HubPages not concerned that their content is also being copied? Are you filing DMCA reports on your own copied pages? We are not asking you to do that for our pages...we already have. We are just asking that HubPages do the same for their own copied content on this site, as many official HP pages are on that site.

                Plus, at least one person has noted that their Hub has been marked for duplicate content because of this site...what can you do about that?

                1. Jason Menayan profile image60
                  Jason Menayanposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  We will take care of our own content, but thank you for your concern.
                  They should contact the support team. If that's indeed the case, the support team can override the duplicate content checker.

              2. Evylyn Rose profile image65
                Evylyn Roseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                Jason, HubPages original content is also being stolen in the same manner as ours. As I already stated and TheInspiredLife just said, yes, we writers must file our own complaints for our copyrighted work. What I am upset about is that you are not standing with us in this fight as work attributed specifically to HubPages is being plagiarized as well. It is not just our work being stolen, but yours too.

                1. Jason Menayan profile image60
                  Jason Menayanposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  I'm not sure what you mean when you say we are not standing by you?

                  1. Evylyn Rose profile image65
                    Evylyn Roseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    As you can see in this thread, hubbers are coming together to offer tips, support, and assistance, helping to clear up the situation. We don't expect every single staff member to join in the discussion, but at least a single representative who does more than say "We can't do anything" would show that HubPages actually cares about its writers and is willing to help out in situations like these.

                    For some hubbers, this is the first time ever running into a problem like this. A lot of suggestions that have been made are by those who are unaware of the proper way to handle this situation and so many of us are running around like chickens with our heads cut off not realizing that we are wasting time writing and sending emails and DMCA complaints to all the wrong places. We would expect HubPages to offer a little more support than just a link or two to hubs that have info on how to write a DMCA. It helps a little, but not as much as having some real guidance in this specific situation.

              3. rmr profile image77
                rmrposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                I understand that HubPages staff can't go tracking down every content thief that comes along. I am curious about one thing, though. In cases like this, where scrapers take every hub that's published on a daily basis, wouldn't this line from the DMCA notice allow them to take some kind of action?

                I swear, under penalty of perjury, that the information in the notification is accurate and that I am the copyright owner or am authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed.

                I'm not being contrary. I've just wondered about that particular line every time this has happened; and it has happened more than a few times.

                1. Evylyn Rose profile image65
                  Evylyn Roseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  I have been wondering this as well. I don't imagine there are too many hubbers here who would deny HubPages the authorization to act on our behalf in this situation.

                2. Jason Menayan profile image60
                  Jason Menayanposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  I understand your frustration, and bigezine will not be the last crappy site that copies everything on HubPages, but we are not legally authorized to act as your agent in these kinds of matters. Our site has always (somewhat uniquely) allowed Hubbers to retain their own copyright, and to act as their own agents when copyright is threatened.

      3. cloverleaffarm profile image77
        cloverleaffarmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        It could happen on any site. But, most sites would be working with you to help out. I don't see that happening here.

  14. Kalmiya profile image83
    Kalmiyaposted 7 years ago

    Uninvited Writer; I think that's an interesting idea. Just write a hub about what they're doing including all the contact info on where to report them, etc. and publish that. They will just upload it automatically to their site and if there is anyone actually looking at their site, that's what they'll get. Still, it's all just stupidly ridiculous.

    1. DeborahNeyens profile image95
      DeborahNeyensposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Just make sure not to include any links to the offending site in the article, as that will give them more valuable backlinks.

    2. homesteadbound profile image84
      homesteadboundposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Kalmiya - you would want to include different information than anyone else is including or your hub will get pulled for duplicate content. Then you just wasted your time.
      But I think that doing that might be playing into their hand and wasting your time anyway. It certainly does not help you in the long run. This will pass (fingers crossed) sooner or later, and then that hub does nothing for you in the future. But if it makes you feel better now and you are not concerned with time, go for it!

  15. Pearldiver profile image80
    Pearldiverposted 7 years ago

    This is a complete model of 68 articles splat com BS from last year  - and perhaps even the same players as last time. 

    Has no one been in touch with Name dot com...
    I'm sure softlayer is merely a reseller for Name dot com...
    so stop catering to softlayer's set of hoops and just dump the WHOLE Problem on Name dot com - Let them force the Take Down! 

    With such blatant theft the onus falls on their hosting company completely.. but talk to the chief (Name dot com) rather than reseller agent/indians (Softlayer) sad

    And..

    Make a series of complaints to eNom as they OWN ALL .com domains and have the Absolute Power to apply a Registrar's Lock on ANY site that - Provides FALSE ownership info (which these guys have!) and - Can Lock any site that is actively involved in fraudulent activities!

    STOP Wasting your time with these turkeys and the pleasure they gain from reading all the panic talk online!  Just Take their Damn Site Down via the Domain Registrar - Name dot com .... who are agents for eNom.. END of Story! smile

    AS FOR ME.... I spent 50 hours on the last lot of thieves and then got banned last time I got involved in this piracy BS... so...I'm sure with this post.... everyone else has the ability to NUKE these turkeys!  Why immortalize them in hubs? roll  Just Nuke Them via the Registrar!

    1. oceansnsunsets profile image85
      oceansnsunsetsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Pearldiver, this is what I am trying to get at the most...What IS the best thing we can do, as I can see this all taking me a lot of time JUST for my own that have been stolen, and I am not even sure it will work.  So many different suggestions with others saying, "oh that won't work" and it all has me kind of confused.  I like how you want to go for the jugular here, so to speak!   

      I have never filed a complaint with eNom or the "Registrar" etc.  So much to learn, ugh...

      1. Pearldiver profile image80
        Pearldiverposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        EVERY DOMAIN whether developed into a website or not developed (just parked)... MUST BE Registered annually with a nominated domain registrar.  eNom are primary registrars and allocate secondary registration and hosting agencies to companies like Name dot com etc.  Those companies then on sell the facilities to 'reseller' accounts (like Softlayer, Ihostthieves, etc)... The chosen domains that these turkeys have registered and developed into article thieving sites are probably registered via Name dot com but hosted with one of their 100s of reseller accounts (softlayer etc).  What you must understand is: that often these turkeys actually are also reseller accounts, but aren't identified as having that role also, as they 'mask' the relationship, so that when copyright holders complain, they can deflect those complaints, because the copyright owners can easily get frustrated and give up... thinking that the 'hosting' company seems to agree with the thief and they don't know how to circumvent that trap!

        Easy... Just deal with the Big guys.. Name dot com AND/OR their superiors eNom.
        When you look at who eNom are... you will ask yourself... "Are Demand Studios intentionally targeting HP - by supporting the scrapping of their competitor's content?"  - AND if you go after the thieves via eNom... well, I guess you might find it appropriate to ask eNom that very same question!! smile
        And watch how fast that fire could spread! I think you will find that they use their clout (Unlike HP (interestingly) is prepared to) to Force a Take Down of the offenders! 
        If you want to Kick Butt... Think Outside the Box, Save your boot and just NUKE THEM! smile

        1. oceansnsunsets profile image85
          oceansnsunsetsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          This seems like very important information Pearldiver, and I hope everyone reads this!  Thanks so much.

        2. Evylyn Rose profile image65
          Evylyn Roseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Thanks for this info. Considering how many of us have written to SoftLayer already and the site is still up has been bugging me. It's just like an open door policy: If the next tier up isn't doing their job when approached (or are the problem), go above them.

      2. Marisa Wright profile image96
        Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        The absolute best advice is the advice given by HubPages in this thread.

        Report your stolen work to Google through Webmaster Tools (if you're not using Webmaster Tools, go and sign up now).

        Be sure to include all of your Hubs which have been stolen, and the URL's of each of the copies.

        If everyone with stolen Hubs does the same, Google will drop the copies from their search results.  Without Google traffic, the site won't be worth continuing and they will eventually give up.

    2. Marisa Wright profile image96
      Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I've made frequent post on this thread saying exactly that, Pearldiver!  Giving these b!^#@%$%^ free publicity by publishing Hubs or Tweeting/Facebook sharing about it is the dumbest, silliest, stupidest thing anyone could do.

      Unfortunately these days, most people seem to read the forums in threaded format and/or don't bother to read a thread through before they post, so nobody has paid a blind bit of attention to the occasional sensible piece of advice which has been posted.

      I've been telling people to report through Webmaster tools and with the hosting company.  I didn't know the registrar of the domain name could do anything?  Can they cancel the name?

      1. Evylyn Rose profile image65
        Evylyn Roseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        A site needs a domain name for the hosting company to host, so I would imagine the answer is yes. Unfortunately, we do not have the information on who the domain name is through. GoDaddy is incorrect.

        It may take some time, but the site will stop appearing on Google thanks to all of us filing complaints. However, there are other search engines out there and simply having links all over the net can provide even more traffic than search engines do all together. That could potentially provide enough motivation for the site to remain up even if they don't get any Google traffic. I don't see having their links removed from Google alone enough to get them to just give up so easily. We need the host company to take the site down, but, as TheInspiredLife has mentioned, they may just be making us jump through hoops for nothing.

        1. Marisa Wright profile image96
          Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          ....which is one reason why everyone needs to think about where they've talked about this site, and delete all links to it right now!

  16. Pearldiver profile image80
    Pearldiverposted 7 years ago

    As I said earlier.... STOP Wasting your time with reseller hosts - eg: Softlayer

    Bypass all the BS and simply ADDRESS Your DMCAs to Name dot com along with a note stating it is your belief that Softlayer may have a Vested Interest in the party that has stolen the content!

    End of story....

    Why are there so many misleading pieces of advice in this thread?

    If you don't like that your work has been stolen... then ATTACK those parties who maintain an interest with the thieves!  Don't pussyfoot around and try to be Nice! They don't give a Rat's Butt about YOU or they wouldn't Steal your hard work... would they?

    If you want your work withdrawn... YOU MUST TAKE DOWN the Site!  Don't be Nice roll  Be Angry and DEMAND YOUR WORK is Removed!! Don't say "Please!" Just NUKE them!

    I've told you how... If you don't respect my advice (which actually works) then... don't complain that they aren't playing fair!  They aren't and Never Intended to... this is for me the 5th time I have had my work scrapped here and the 4th time that this method of attacking the thieves has resulted in taking down the offending sites! 
    Be strong... press the NUKE Button smile

    Good Luck.... I've done my bit to Help... I don't want to be banned again for trying to take down Article Thieves... I HATE THEM... clearly too passionately!

    1. DeborahNeyens profile image95
      DeborahNeyensposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Pearldiver, do you have an email address where we may direct our complaints?  Thanks.  I've notified copyright@softlayer.com and Google and haven't had a response from either place.

    2. rlbert00 profile image76
      rlbert00posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Ok, so I took your advice and emailed name.com and enom.com. Here is what they told me...I got a response from name.com first indicating that they were not able to assist me because they were not the affiliated in anyway with big e zine.com and suggested I contact Soft Layer, who I have already email but have not gotten a response from.

      Later this afternoon I received a response fro enom informing me that they were neither the host nor the the registrant, and then they gave me the name of the registrant. Who did they tell me was the registrant?  Imagine my surprise when I scrolled down the email to learn that, according to enom anyway, the registrant is...wait for it...name.com.

      Have you ever felt like a one-legged man is an asskicking contest? I'm at a loss, I have 7 dmac complaints that I filed through Google Webmaster Tools, I suppose I'll sit on my thumbs until I hear from them...whenever that may be.

  17. Becky Katz profile image82
    Becky Katzposted 7 years ago

    Thanks for the help Pearldiver. I will be doing that and suggesting it to others. I just received the DMCA's I filed back again. I am fed up with this scum.

  18. TheInspiredLife profile image77
    TheInspiredLifeposted 7 years ago

    When I did a search to figure out the fastest way to take down a scraper website...the top of the list was a blog offering a very detailed guide on how to scrape! It even gives a list of the best places to scrape from, and describes how to steal all content from an entire site, wipe it clean of all ads and links, and post a "clean" copy as if it were your own. The blogger refers to this as "necessary" because it takes too much time to write quality content for a website...and he says you can scrape and use the content to fill up your "spam sites." It made me sick reading it...and there were tons of comments from people saying they were doing this or were going to use the info to do this. One of the points in this guide was that they try to find content is fresh and new, so it hasn't been listed in the search engines yet...which makes sense why our hubs are being copied right when published. It also advised users to find very high quality content that is already optimized with keywords so their new site will be amazing and rank high...makes me sick.

    I did notice they said the easiest way to scrape is through RSS feeds.

    Are we fighting a losing battle here? Is it really possible to get everything taken down every time something is "scraped" or will it just keep happening over and over? If this is something being taught as a necessity for those learning SEO...it may just be never ending. I also came across some bloggers who have taken a more casual attitude because it has happened to them so much...if they get a backlink because the thieves didn't take out links, they may leave it?

  19. FatFreddysCat profile image95
    FatFreddysCatposted 7 years ago

    I just had the chance to check my e-mail and I got a standard "here's how to file a DCMA complaint" form letter from both HubPages and from Softlayer ... so I will have to deal with that later..

  20. TheInspiredLife profile image77
    TheInspiredLifeposted 7 years ago

    I am also feeling discouraged from writing anymore on HubPages. I really liked it here, but if I am going to be on my own dealing with these issues all the time, I would rather do my own thing on a blog or website which may not be such an easy target for scraping. I know we have helped each other here, but all we are doing is helping each other find basic information that I have also found through searching and reading blogs...if there is no further help, then convenience is not enough to make me stay and go through this over and over.

    Honestly, I have been thinking my HubPages account may just become a place I post lower quality work for the sake of a backlink...because it is such a horrible feeling knowing my best stuff is being copied and used elsewhere under someone else's name.

    HubPages should be worried because many writers may decide the site is not a safe place to post their best work. That will take the quality of the entire site down. Eventually, it may  not even be worth scraping anymore! That is sad, but if others have lost trust in the site as I have, it could happen.

    1. oceansnsunsets profile image85
      oceansnsunsetsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I totally hear you and agree TheInspiredLife, and many others seem to feel the same way, evidently.  Ultimately it is up to each individual, and HubPages on what to do.  The cause and effect of those choices will play out.  So the points matter.

  21. ThoughtSandwiches profile image79
    ThoughtSandwichesposted 7 years ago

    lol..."We will take care of our own content, but thank you for your concern."  That just about says it all, eh?

  22. jimmythejock profile image85
    jimmythejockposted 7 years ago

    I can't see the site being there much longer lol, I just did a search and found that the hubs and forum posts from here are first on google bigezine doesn't even rank on the first page of search and Google has already removed links because of copyright complaints. A sure sign that its days are numbered.....jimmy

    1. JKenny profile image92
      JKennyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Good to hear jimmy. I also did a search for them earlier, and Google told me that a number of results had been omitted, due to a number of DMCA complaints, they'll be gone soon enough.

      1. jimmythejock profile image85
        jimmythejockposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        It may not be soon enough for some but it will be gone and forgotten soon.....jimmy

        1. Jason Menayan profile image60
          Jason Menayanposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Nicely said. smile

          For crap sites with 100% copied/spun content: file a DMCA with Google (Web Search) and stop worrying about it.

          For reputable sites that still copied your Hubs: file a DMCA with the site directly and stop worrying about it.

          (The common thread is to stop worrying after filing the DMCA smile)

          1. profile image0
            jenuboukaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            There needs to be a little one up here, so ONE UP on your comment Jason.

  23. Daughter Of Maat profile image93
    Daughter Of Maatposted 7 years ago

    I understand hubpages has no authority in this matter, I also understand they are a corporation and as such, are not going to interfere in these types of cases which is why they state we own our own content. I admit it's an easy out for them, but I can see their point of view as well.

    What I don't understand is why, when hubpages found out about this issue, they didn't post a sitewide message letting us know our content had possibly been copied. At the very least, they could have done that and given us all a chance to file DMCA complaints right away. This has been going on since March 16th as far as I can tell, and we're just now finding out about it.

    I'll take care of my own content, it would have been nice to be made aware of the issue weeks ago however.

    1. Evylyn Rose profile image65
      Evylyn Roseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Or even just a highlight in the weekly emails would have been appropriate. I know a lot of us would have been saved a lot of headaches with some guidance on this particular situation had we known which emails not to waste our time writing DMCA complaints to. I know I wrote to three different companies just because I could not find the company name listed when searching for the hosting company of the domain just for someone to list Softlayer later on. Many of us are now realizing that Softlayer is not helping in this situation either. We just now found out the domain name is under GoDaddy. I use them for my website and had I figured it out sooner, I wouldn't have wasted my time emailing anyone else.

      1. Jason Menayan profile image60
        Jason Menayanposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Please refer to Learning Center entry official advice we provide:
        http://hubpages.com/learningcenter/how- … -complaint

        Going after the host and registrar might bring the site down (remember they can always move), but we think it's a far better use of your time to make sure the copied content doesn't show up in Google search results.

    2. Jason Menayan profile image60
      Jason Menayanposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      DoM: I was personally out in a place in the middle of nowhere with no cell phone signal, much less an Internet connection. smile But, as I've said before, copying happens all the time and the important thing to do is not panic about it. If the copying is not done on a reputable site, then you should not be worrying about it outranking your original content in search results.

      We share some options you can pursue if you want to be alerted about copied content, so that you can take appropriate action (i.e. filing DMCA complaints). Please note that they are not free:
      http://hubpages.com/learningcenter/how- … -complaint

      1. jimmythejock profile image85
        jimmythejockposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        I have to agree with Jason in 5 years around 50% of my hubs have been copied and most of the time a dmca complant does the trick, but I have also seen the entire site copied elswhere and given time they are removed from the search engines. I have never noticed a drop in visitors to my Hubs nor a drop in earnings caused by this issue.
        Patience and hubber complaints to the host site will close the site down soon enough.....jimmy

        1. cclitgirl profile image94
          cclitgirlposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          +1 Jimmy.  That's a relief. wink

          1. Will Apse profile image91
            Will Apseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            I have noticed big drops in traffic as a result of copying since Google changed its rules on the issue, so it is important to at least get the page removed from Google web search as fast as possible.

      2. Daughter Of Maat profile image93
        Daughter Of Maatposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Oh, where were you? The middle of nowhere sounds awesome right about now!

        Thank you for the link, and I do understand that this sort of thing happens quite a lot. I'm currently looking into retaining legal services for possible future issues. The concern about duplicated content however, may warrant further discussion. Do you have a link to infomation on contacting the correct people at hubpages in regards to correcting duplicate issues? I haven't had a problem yet, but posting a link for others may be beneficial.

        1. Jason Menayan profile image60
          Jason Menayanposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Upstate (?) Connecticut. Lost my cell signal an hour before I even got there! lol

          Here's a link to the contact form for our support team:
          http://hubpages.com/contact_us/

          1. Daughter Of Maat profile image93
            Daughter Of Maatposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Thank you for the link! I'm actually going to bookmark it just incase I need it.

            Interestingly, we live in an area of Florida that is a complete dead zone. We are out in the country but there's a cell tower not a mile away. It seems dead zones can be anywhere, even next to a tower! Although, not having service can be nice everyonce in awhile! big_smile

  24. kgala0405 profile image80
    kgala0405posted 7 years ago

    I just saw something that proves this is some sort of automatic program stealing the hubs.  They actually published a hub talking about how their site is stealing hubs.  I'm not going to post a link but its written by the robot Derrick Garrett

    1. Daughter Of Maat profile image93
      Daughter Of Maatposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      That's actualy my hub, and they edited all the copyrights to say Father of Daughter of Maat. Insulting to say the least since my father is no longer here. Ironically, their name is still strewn throughout the hub, so anyone reading it will hopefully wonder why someone wrote an article like that about the site it's hosted on!

    2. FatFreddysCat profile image95
      FatFreddysCatposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      "Derrick" is the name on my stolen article too. He's quite a renaissance man, he's "written" articles about music, politics, electronic equipment, television shows, and the list goes on.... hahaha.

      Anyway, using the guidelines laid out earlier in this thread (and in some other Hubs that cover the subject) I've just e-mailed my very first DMCA complaint. Lord only knows if it's going to do any good, but hey, I stood up for myself.

      Let's hope the cheesebags who run BigEzine are crushed under the weight of their own deception soon, so we can all get back to what we're good at - writing Hubs!!!!

      1. Marisa Wright profile image96
        Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Also report them to Google using Webmaster Tools.

  25. 2uesday profile image79
    2uesdayposted 7 years ago

    You know for me this is getting like walking down a street that is a tourist area regularly targeted by pick pockets and thieves.

    In the end you stop using that route as you become tired and cannot find a way of having eyes in the back of your head and enough wits or time to ward of the unscrupulous.

  26. Daughter Of Maat profile image93
    Daughter Of Maatposted 7 years ago

    In response to those who found that bigezines is hosted by godaddy, I emailed godaddy. I posted the response I got at the bottom of my hub here:

    <link snipped>

    1. Evylyn Rose profile image65
      Evylyn Roseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      So in other words, we're right back to having to deal with SoftLayer who does not seem to be doing anything?

      1. Marisa Wright profile image96
        Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Thanks to all the chatter on this thread, I suspect very few people have actually filed a DMCA with Softlayer yet.

        http://www.softlayer.com/legal/copyrigh … ement-dmca

        We need people to focus on filing with Webmaster Tools and Softlayer for every Hub, instead of wasting time writing Hubs and publicising the Offending Site to all and sundry.

        1. TheInspiredLife profile image77
          TheInspiredLifeposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          I have done the DMCA with webmaster tools and no response on that. I have now sent messages 3 times to Softlayer, and they are sending me in a circle. I sent to abuse@softlayer.com and got a message to send it to copyright@softlayer.com. So I sent to the copyright address and got a message back from the abuse address, so I believe it is all being answered by the same people. I changed my email title field when I sent it to the copyright address, so I know they were responding to that message and not the first one.

          So I have now sent another demand to the copyright email with official language from a template given by a blogger, with all the official language in it...and I expect to get a message back from the abuse email again. It is a generic message they are sending to every request, regardless of where you send it to.

          Google has not responded to the DMCA filings, and all my articles are still up on that site. So, I guess there is nothing else I can do. I am tired of running in circles with SoftLayer.

          1. Marisa Wright profile image96
            Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            When did you submit it?  Google is a big company, it can take a while for them to take action, but they will.  You did file through the webmaster tools form?
            http://support.google.com/webmasters/bi … swer=93713

            Your complaint won't get your content removed from the site - but Google will drop it from its search engine results, which is just as effective.



            Softlayer (and any other host) won't act on emails unless they are in the official DMCA format, so you should now see a result.  I'm sure they will give you a generic response at first, but if enough Hubbers do the same, they can't ignore us.

            1. homesteadbound profile image84
              homesteadboundposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              Marisa - Would the following be considered "official DMCA format"

              I am writing to you to avail myself of my rights under the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA). This letter is a Notice of Infringement as authorized in §512 of the U.S. Copyright Law.

              1. The copyrighted work at issue is the text that appears on:

              ######THE_URL_OF_YOUR-HUB#######

              2. The URLs where my copyrighted material is located include:

              ##LINK OF STOLEN MATERIAL#####

              3. My contact information is as follows:

              ##YOUR NAME##
              ##YOUR MAILING ADDRESS##
              ##YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS##

              4. I have a good faith belief that use of the copyrighted materials described above as allegedly infringing is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law.

              5. I swear, under penalty of perjury, that the information in the notification is accurate and that I am the copyright owner or am authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed.

              ##YOUR NAME##"

              1. Marisa Wright profile image96
                Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                Yes you've got it right!

                1. homesteadbound profile image84
                  homesteadboundposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                  I am so glad, since that is what I have been advising others also. You have relieved me of much concern. Thanks! I was sweating.

                  1. j-u-i-c-e profile image94
                    j-u-i-c-eposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                    Thanks for sticking it through and keeping everyone on track Marisa. And thanks homesteadbound for the DMCA template.

                    I've filed with Google via webmaster tools and directly with softlayer and it would have been a lot more painful without the help of everyone in the forum.

                    Well, most of you, anyway. tongue

      2. Daughter Of Maat profile image93
        Daughter Of Maatposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Apparently yes. And I believe softlayer is part of the whole scheme and so are ignoring our DMCA's. The best course of action would be to keep copies of all emails to and from those who have anything to do with this problem. File DMCA's with google AND bing (don't forget bing) and contact an attorney. It would be possible to file a class action suit against these people if we don't get anywhere with the DMCA's.

        1. Marisa Wright profile image96
          Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Softlayer has already taken down two sites belonging to these jokers in the past, so I doubt they are part of the scheme.  They are just a big company and like all big companies, it takes time for them to react.

          Also, they will ignore all emails unless they're in proper DMCA format - and I suspect at least some Hubbers have just sent them an ordinary email.  Besides, judging from many of the comments in this thread, some people don't read through the thread and probably don't even realize that's the right thing to do.

          1. Daughter Of Maat profile image93
            Daughter Of Maatposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            I did send an email in proper DMCA format, and I got a generic letter in return, whether or not this is just a standard response letting me know they received my email, or their actual response, I can't be sure. But I do hope you're right and they do the same to this site. Thanks again for your suggestion for my hub. It is much easier to read now.

  27. Kalmiya profile image83
    Kalmiyaposted 7 years ago

    Thanks everyone for the comments and direction. Pearldiver, I've sent a 'request' into Name.com naming Softlayer and Bigezine (is it GoDaddy now?). And have decided not to publish a hub just for the sake of it telling possible readers that the site is junk. This is certainly a lot to think about just getting going here.

    Separately, I would say I would have expected some kind of system-wide alert telling everyone the website in question who was stealing material and maybe a 7 point guideline on how they could deal with it, maybe when we log in. This would have been really helpful for newbies or those who haven't encountered this before and are just trying to get hubs up rather than just stumbling upon a thread where I happened to clue into what was going on. I know there is a resource centre but admit that I don't go there as it's a little more work sifting through advice hubs.  This will surely happen again and if there is some kind of early warning system (like for tsunamis!) at the first sign of such activity (maybe even a reporting centre to receive alerts) then we would be able to get all Hubbers on any offending party like a ton of bricks at the get go.

    1. Evylyn Rose profile image65
      Evylyn Roseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      GoDaddy and Name.com have no association with BigEzine. We should only be alerting Google and SoftLayer to the copyright violations.

      1. Daughter Of Maat profile image93
        Daughter Of Maatposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Don't forget bing! lol

        1. Evylyn Rose profile image65
          Evylyn Roseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Yes, and Bing too! smile

      2. Pearldiver profile image80
        Pearldiverposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Please..... When you are going to offer advice on issues like this.. please make sure that your information is CORRECT and Factual. 

        FYI.... as previously confirmed... (like 3 days ago!) - Name dot com are the Registrar of this Scam site!  Kindly don't tell others that that information is wrong or flawed... at least unless you know what you are talking about!

        If you Do Not Understand How the Domain Registration system works (and it's not that complex)... then I suggest that you familiarize yourself with the entire process and thus LEARN that your options available in such circumstances, are indeed far, far wider than you may currently believe!  If you go back to one of my earlier posts, you will find that I have explained WHAT a Register (Name dot com) can do, when one of it's clients (Softlayer) has a relationship with an offending party!  Before you shoot me down on MY KNOWLEDGE, please check the accuracy of our own... you may find that the advice that I am sharing is of Far Greater Value than you are prepared to consider, but (as I said) it is very direct and bypasses those parties who want you to give up and not fight for your rights!

        Name dot com have the ability to apply a 'Register Lock' to the offending site - immediately and at great expense to the offending site.  Immediate Take Down.. blank screen... canceled hosting, registration, bad publicity.. the lot!

        I believe I suggested this in good faith to those effected by this problem and I certainly don't appreciate having solid advice undermined. Now, consider also the advice provided by Jason and other senior hubbers AND Make sure that you File DMCAs - But consider either 'SUBSTITUTING' Softlayer for Name dot com or file with BOTH of them.... Also File with Google and then you have Forced the issue and ensured that the Registrar (the 'God' of all Websites and domains) has then acted in your interests as Copyright Owner, rather than unwittingly protecting the Thieves!

        As everyone has been told... ALWAYS File your DMCAs.. but with such blatant thieves... Also nail them via their primary register - Name dot com in this case!

        Thanks.

        1. Marisa Wright profile image96
          Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Thanks for explaining that, Pearldiver,I've learned something new.

        2. Evylyn Rose profile image65
          Evylyn Roseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          I did read your earlier posts and believed them in good faith. However, those who have emailed these sources have also shared the results of their efforts. If all they do is tell us they have no association with the offending site, then what use is there in emailing them? Sure, we can all email the sources you've provided, but if they are just going to tell us we have the wrong information or divert us back to SoftLayer, why would we?

        3. homesteadbound profile image84
          homesteadboundposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Pearldiver - The only email I can find for name.com is support@name.com
          Is this who we would file our reports to?

          This is really all new to me and I am trying to figure it out.

  28. Kalmiya profile image83
    Kalmiyaposted 7 years ago

    Oh, okay.  I've emailed Softlayer but am just getting bouncebacks.  I'll go do Bing next.  Tks!

  29. WebsiteConfetti profile image60
    WebsiteConfettiposted 7 years ago

    google seems to be taking some action. I google the website name and for starters a hub was first place google ranking, but the bottom of the search results had  this message

    "In response to a complaint we received under the US Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we have removed 1 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read the DMCA complaint that caused the removal(s) at ChillingEffects.org."

    The search results is still filled with subdomains though... but aleast its progressing a little

  30. WebsiteConfetti profile image60
    WebsiteConfettiposted 7 years ago

    I dont know if Im allowed to post a link to my hub, so I wont, but ive just published a hub that basically lists what hubbers affected need to do, as I was finding it hard to find dcma urls etc through all the posts.

  31. BRIAN SLATER profile image87
    BRIAN SLATERposted 7 years ago

    I went to the site this morning to check the latest articles that had been added (5th) and saw several hubs from hp people recently published. However when I tried to open any of them it wouldn't let me. Just maybe things are starting to happen.

  32. Mark Ewbie profile image85
    Mark Ewbieposted 7 years ago

    I had a DMCA response from Google this morning. They are going to remove the page that started this thread.

    As a side note, you might not believe how much I checked that I had my original and the copied URL's the right way round when I raised my DMCA report.

    1. lobobrandon profile image91
      lobobrandonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Haha smile I can understand wink

  33. Alison Graham profile image96
    Alison Grahamposted 7 years ago

    I was alerted to this by a hubber who emailed me to say they had found one of my hubs - I checked and it is definitely there, but has not been indexed so hopefully G are 'on the case'!

  34. Marcy Goodfleisch profile image94
    Marcy Goodfleischposted 7 years ago

    This entire mess has taken more hours of my time this week than I care to calculate.  I fully understand that publishing on the Internet comes with these risks.  I also fully understand that because our hubs are copyrighted by us as individuals, and the complaint process is set up to be submitted by the copyright owner, sites such as ours are a bit hamstrung in the options to address it at their level.  And yet it affects the entire site. 

    Since this isn't the first (or last) time this sort of thing has happened, perhaps some laws or regulations should be pursued to give a means for an entire site to go after infringement.  This site is stealing our writing (and our individual livelihoods), but it is also pirating the entire value (our hubs) that HubPages uses to operate as a business.  Laws need to take this into account so that sites such as HP have avenues to pursue in addition to the avenues we writers can take.

  35. AEvans profile image76
    AEvansposted 7 years ago

    There were 12 of my hubs that were copied verbatim on BigEzine.com I filed DMCA complaints with Google. 3 have already been removed.

    Our work is date stamped on HP so we retain our original work. I also use copyscape and myfreecopyright.com

    I realize it is disheartening because when I had seen my work it was upsetting. What we can do is continue to protect our work by using those sites, notate on each hub it is copyright protected. Which I didn't do on the last round of hubs.

    We should not let what has happened stop us from writing. I am not going to let it stop me; but I am going to start placing the copyright back onto my hubs.

    1. Jason Marovich profile image89
      Jason Marovichposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Are they still getting hubs from HubPages feed? 

      That was the only reason I paused with my publishing past couple days.  I'm not really concerned with the site, as Jason said there's no chance it's going to outrank my original, but still, I'd rather keep copies of my stuff online to a minimum.

  36. alliemacb profile image90
    alliemacbposted 7 years ago

    Just found my recently published How to make no- bake cookies hub oublished word for word on this site with my pictures and layout lifted directly.  Am going to file complaint with Google.  So annoyed.

    1. Nell Rose profile image92
      Nell Roseposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Loads of us have reported it to Google, the trouble is the site has taken down the ads at the moment, and google has said they can't do anything. I think you have to report it elsewhere, go and take a look at the other forum posts, I am sure they mentioned it on there, okay?

      1. alliemacb profile image90
        alliemacbposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Thanks - I've now found a total of 8 ripped off articles, some of which use personal photos of mine.  I'll take a look at the rest of the forum to see what to do.

      2. Marisa Wright profile image96
        Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Nell, you have to report it through Google webmaster tools, not Google Adsense.  They can't get the content removed, but they can remove it from search engine results which means they won't get any traffic.
        http://support.google.com/bin/static.py … page=ts.cs

        You should also report it to the site's host:

        http://www.softlayer.com/legal/copyrigh … ement-dmca

        Make sure you specify the URL's of your own article and the exact URL's of the copies.

        1. Rosie2010 profile image71
          Rosie2010posted 7 years agoin reply to this

          I just sent notices to softlayer as well.  Thanks for all your help, Marisa.

  37. Don Crowson profile image70
    Don Crowsonposted 7 years ago

    I just found one of my hubs on that site, and I am not going to write any more hubs until something is done about that site. The world may be full of thieves, but the intellectual properties must be protected or there is no reason to create anything.

    1. Jason Marovich profile image89
      Jason Marovichposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Exactly.  I'm not looking to create more work for myself by publishing.  Hopefully, the site will be taken down soon, or cut off from our feed.

  38. Kalmiya profile image83
    Kalmiyaposted 7 years ago

    Hello: I'm having a new problem related to my email that is linked to HubPages. A spam email was sent to all of my contacts saying 'try this, it's great' with a link to

    http: // www. news 1 5o.net / biz? pag e=0482508
    spaced out so the link doesn't occure

    which promotes something saying 'make $39,000 a year...'.  This email does not show up in my 'sent' file but I do see the failure notice for those emails that did not go through.

    Has anyone else experience this yet? This is getting to be a nightmare.

    1. lobobrandon profile image91
      lobobrandonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Its not By HubPages maybe some thing else that you subscribed for - some spammy site

    2. Marisa Wright profile image96
      Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      This has nothing to do with HubPages. Your email has been hacked by someone else. 

      This happened to me, too. 

      You should report it to your email provider.  And run anti-virus and anti-malware checks on every inch of your PC right now!

      I'm not sure what else to do - I was lucky, I had another email address which I preferred to use anyway.  So I just deleted all my contacts from the hacked email account (so the hacker couldn't send anything more to them), and switched to my other account.

    3. brittanytodd profile image91
      brittanytoddposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Change your email account's password and you won't send out any spam messages.  Someone hacked into your account and sent it. If you change the password, they can't do it anymore.  I hope this helps!

      1. Marisa Wright profile image96
        Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        It depends on how the account has been hacked. If she's got a key logger virus, it will just pick up the new password.

        1. brittanytodd profile image91
          brittanytoddposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          True, but most likely, if she changes her password, they won't be able to send them in the future. If they persist, then she should delete her account entirely and transfer her emails/contacts to the new account.

  39. Outbound Dan profile image95
    Outbound Danposted 7 years ago

    Damn, they got me too. At least I don't feel left out...

  40. Marcy Goodfleisch profile image94
    Marcy Goodfleischposted 7 years ago

    I found another site with BigE's news release and sent them a message explaining the situation and asking that they unpublish the news release.  At the bottom of the news release, the contact number was listed as 435-870-8352.  This would be the contact representing BigE.  I tried calling it and there's a fast busy signal.  Then I did a reverse number check and the information on who owns it is not available.

    1. lobobrandon profile image91
      lobobrandonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Don't bother calling them they may just abuse you. It's not going to make a difference anyway. However, contacting the other site could be ok.

  41. lobobrandon profile image91
    lobobrandonposted 7 years ago

    How long do I wait? I just published two hubs and I checked they're not copied yet. I was refraining as I didn't want to do the DMCA thing. But, now I might as well get included in this mess and file a report. But, they need to copy it first - Hopefully its done within the next 3 hours or not at all as I want to do it before bed.

    1. homesteadbound profile image84
      homesteadboundposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      lbobrandon - now you want to get copied! lol!  It usually is pretty quick, and then you can just go do a search for your titles, and you know it has been done! lol

      1. lobobrandon profile image91
        lobobrandonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Nope I don't want to wink I know it's gonna happen so might as well file the complaint when I've got the time smile

        1. homesteadbound profile image84
          homesteadboundposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          I love your attitude! If I can ever get my website finished, and then be able to work on a hub, that is what I intend to do. Publish and then keep checking.

      2. cloverleaffarm profile image77
        cloverleaffarmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Looks like the site has been taken down. You can get to their main page, but if you click on any of the articles, you get the message "server cannot be found", or some such thing. I guess all the filing did some good smile

        1. lobobrandon profile image91
          lobobrandonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          I just went to three articles on their home page all opened.

          1. cloverleaffarm profile image77
            cloverleaffarmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Really, I just checked it out, and on both browsers, I get that message every time I clicked on an article. Yup, went back to try it again. Still won't let me.

            http://s4.hubimg.com/u/6437651_f248.jpg

            1. cloverleaffarm profile image77
              cloverleaffarmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              Okay, just went back in. Looks like it only does for me on the main page. If I click on a category, and then click on a link, it does open the article. Don't know why.

              1. AEvans profile image76
                AEvansposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                The same thing happened to me. But when I typed in one of my articles it was still there. I filed DMCA with Google and that other site, so hopefully it will be resolved soon.

              2. lobobrandon profile image91
                lobobrandonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                Hmm I clicked from the main page it opened as well but I see the pic wink

        2. ThePracticalMommy profile image95
          ThePracticalMommyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          One of my articles is still there and the link still works (one I already filed a DCMA for...). I'm on the site now.

        3. homesteadbound profile image84
          homesteadboundposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          I did not have any problems on the site. It still seems to be fully functional. Yesterday they were scraping from at least 3 other sites, but I did not find any HP hubs in the mix, but I only checked 5 of them.

          1. lobobrandon profile image91
            lobobrandonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            They were grabbing from another article directory as well - they allow scraping but with backlinks; these guys didn't give them the backlinks though wink

  42. Kalmiya profile image83
    Kalmiyaposted 7 years ago

    Thanks for the info. I've changed my email password and deleted all my contacts so hopefully this will cure the problem. Using the info I've found here I also did the whois and looked at the page elements etc. and found I was spammed by a registration in the Ukraine. Sheesh.

  43. Enelle Lamb profile image85
    Enelle Lambposted 7 years ago

    Sorry guys - didn't know there was an existing thread! (I just posted one today - hangs head sheepishly.) However, from what I have seen, the site appears to be still operating and accepting emails. I followed several links and they are all showing up with content.

    1. lobobrandon profile image91
      lobobrandonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Yup, they're still up and running.

    2. ThePracticalMommy profile image95
      ThePracticalMommyposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I wasn't able to send an email to the site as a DCMA complaint. It said it was no longer accepting emails. I already sent the complaints to Google Webmaster and SoftLayer, so I guess I'll just wait a day and try again.

  44. oceansnsunsets profile image85
    oceansnsunsetsposted 7 years ago

    Hopefully good news, but on both my Firefox browser and Internet explorer browser, I can't pull up any of the articles on BigEzine's Home page!

    Does this mean that maybe everyone's hard work paid off?  It seems to not be allowing any views of their content, or is that just me?  Let me know here if you end up checking, I am very curious.

    1. homesteadbound profile image84
      homesteadboundposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      oceansnsunsets - that happens to me on the home page as well, but all the other category pages seem to be working fine.

      1. Cardisa profile image91
        Cardisaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        The same thing happened to me on Chrome. I am wondering if we are being blocked or the content has been removed. Chrome said they can't locate "Bigezine.com". Make me wonder. I am wondering how easy will this thing be to fight since they are stealing the hubs almost immediately after bieng published.

        1. missolive profile image94
          missoliveposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Cardisa - I can still access BigEzine and the hubs are still there. I'm using a Mac and going through Safari

          1. North Wind profile image84
            North Windposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            I can access it as well using Explorer. Firefox leads me to the site but the pages on the site are blank. Explorer shows everything the way it was and as far as I can see all of the hubs are still there except for the ones blasting the site.

            1. Cardisa profile image91
              Cardisaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              I will try explorer. Maybe it's just a glitch with the tow browsers. Thanks guys.

              1. homesteadbound profile image84
                homesteadboundposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                Cardisa - using Firefox, I was not able to get any of articles on the home page to come up, but I was able to get the articles on the other pages to come up.

        2. Cheeky Girl profile image70
          Cheeky Girlposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Look carefully at the url addresses of some of the links on the pirate site and you will notice that they begin with a small fullstop "." Any link that begins with such a character will not display in a browser as it is a false url character. It appears just before the word "big" in each link. So you will get a page result saying that link does not exist. But it does.

          Now if you now go to the writers links to the top left of the main index screen, their "pages" links can be read and accessed without those full stops.

          The url to the site has been changed to "lifestyle.bigezine.com", and this is where all the apparent author article links go to.

          They are trying to find ways around being unpublished.

          1. Dale Hyde profile image86
            Dale Hydeposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            It appears that they are feeling the "heat" so to speak, from all the filing we have been doing. Changing the url will work for the immediate time, however, it creates a scenario that the previous complaints will not apply to the new "site" as that is what a new url will look like in the eyes of Google.

            I am not sure what they are up to. I never have seen any ads there, so I wonder why they are pursuing this activity with no visible means of income from the site? Maybe they have some plans for the future with a large data base of articles, stolen, of course.

            1. Marisa Wright profile image96
              Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              They're hoping to survive until the heat is off, then they will put the ads back on again.

              1. j-u-i-c-e profile image94
                j-u-i-c-eposted 7 years agoin reply to this

                Yep. They copy massive amounts of content, wait for people to stop complaining, then put up ads. This happened to the Bethesda Softworks forum. There's a forum called game_skyrim_com w/o underscores that scraped millions of forum posts in late December. They had no ads on their site and apparently any attempts that were made to shut them down were ignored and people just sort of forgot about them. Now there are ads on the site and they rank on page 2 in Google. Free content and legitimacy through negligence. I'm sure you could find a ton of these sites if you looked for them.

  45. alexadry profile image92
    alexadryposted 7 years ago

    Looks like now some of the latest articles are copied from Sooper Articles and Article Base.

    1. PhoenixV profile image64
      PhoenixVposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Do you know any owners or site operators or article writers on those sites that you can make aware of what is happening?

  46. Lady_E profile image70
    Lady_Eposted 7 years ago

    I'm thinking of posting something on Twitter mabye "Ezine please stop copying articles from Hubpages". Maybe word will get round  (Retweets) and it will rock them a bit.

    Any thoughts on this? Is it a Good Idea?

    1. PhoenixV profile image64
      PhoenixVposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      I think that doing something is better than doing nothing.

    2. lorlie6 profile image83
      lorlie6posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Hi Lady_E, long time, no see! 
      I think tweeting/re-tweeting this situation is a grand idea, in fact, I may do just that when on Twitter today.
      Great idea!
      PS:  Good to see you again!

      1. Marisa Wright profile image96
        Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        Don't! Don't! Don't!

        Think about it for a minute. How many people have ever heard of this site?  What will they do when you mention it, even if you say bad things?  Curiosity will win - they'll go and have a look.

        99% of the world has never heard of this site, so let's keep it that way.  On the internet, ANY publicity is worth having, even if it's bad - so don't feed this monster.

        Remember, this site will never get traffic due to people choosing to visit the site - they'll get traffic via the search engines, and most people don't even look at the name of the site when clicking on a link.  So telling people to avoid the site won't make a ha'porth of difference.

        1. Sally's Trove profile image79
          Sally's Troveposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          I admire your perseverance. You've been on top of this from the start, warning folks about channeling a path to the offending site by way of linking, and guiding others back into this thread to get the real dope on what's happening. I just love it when someone doesn't read a thread through. Well, love, hate. It's kind of funny. There's a wealth of information in this thread, but still, people jump in here without reading it from the start. You've done more hand-holding than I ever would have done.

          1. Marisa Wright profile image96
            Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Thanks Sally.  You know what the funny thing is?  I haven't published any new Hubs in March, so I don't even have any copied Hubs on there.

            1. lobobrandon profile image91
              lobobrandonposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              I'm not sure; but, I guess they stopped scraping hubs as the two I published yesterday aren't up there. At least i can't find them.

        2. lorlie6 profile image83
          lorlie6posted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Thank you, Marisa, for opening my eyes to this.  I really hadn't thought of the consequenses and am now glad I didn't get around to 'tweeting' the thing. 
          I see what you mean about 'feeding the monster' and agree wholeheartedly.
          Thought it was a good idea initially, of course, but thanks for your chess-like thinking!

    3. Marisa Wright profile image96
      Marisa Wrightposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Bad idea. Bad idea. Bad idea.

      Do NOT give this site free publicity, please!  These guys don't care if you say nasty things about them - in fact every time you mention them, they're rubbing their hands with glee and laughing at the panic they're causing.

      The rule here is - don't get mad, get even.  The ONLY things that will work are filing a DMCA with Softlayer and filing a complaint through Google Webmaster Tools.

      Softlayer have taken down previous sites by these clowns, so they will do it again IF they get enough complaints. 

      Google won't get the site closed down, but they will remove all the content from their search engine results, which will destroy most of their traffic. If they're making no money, they'll give up eventually.

      1. oceansnsunsets profile image85
        oceansnsunsetsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        I didn't look at it as a way to give the site free publicity at all, but rather doing people a favor that may not know their content is being copied.

        In reading through this thread, it is covered in people being discouraged that more didn't speak up even when they did know about it.  People in this thread seemed to indicate they would have been reporting for a multitude of reasons had they only known. 

        So one has to weigh everything, helping people protect themselves from immoral site owners with no scruples vs. maybe giving help to this site in some way in just checking out how we all have been doing already.

        For me alone, I have been giving that site plenty of views, but now I am done as I hope that is it, that they just stole 7 of my hubs.  Most people, generally speaking don't root for the thieves of the world.  I took it as a good and helpful to others idea.  If I had only seen this because a person posted it on Twitter, I could have checked my stuff, and would have been thankful for the heads up.

        1. oceansnsunsets profile image85
          oceansnsunsetsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          Marissa and a few others have been helpful to me though in much of this thread, that can't be denied, so thanks Marissa and everyone else that was so helpful! smile

        2. lorlie6 profile image83
          lorlie6posted 7 years agoin reply to this

          os, 7?  That's awful.  I think I'll go check some more and see if they've pirated any of mine.  Thank God I don't have too many! smile
          I do think it would be helpful to others who are being stolen from, but per Marisa's post, I don't think I'll go that route after all.

  47. FatFreddysCat profile image95
    FatFreddysCatposted 7 years ago

    Last I checked, my stolen Hub was still up on PigCheezeScene - so much for my DMCA complaint huh?

  48. profile image0
    DMartelonlineposted 7 years ago

    the links are broken and you now have to add www before the . when you try to change pages. It looks like they are trying a new trick, running them through translation before they are posted which changes them enough to make them unique again.

  49. profile image0
    DMartelonlineposted 7 years ago

    in fact look at this puppy: http://.bigezine.com/steps-to-take-if-your-hub-has-been-copied-by-big-ezine-148254.html

    1. WebsiteConfetti profile image60
      WebsiteConfettiposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      @dmartelonline that's my hub! I couldn't get the article to open on my computer though... Or any of their articles for that matter... I wonder if hey have edited out their email address or link to their unprotected Whois data!

    2. cloverleaffarm profile image77
      cloverleaffarmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      http://s1.hubimg.com/u/6441536_f248.jpg

      This is the message I get when I go to their site. Hope it's a good thing.

      1. brittanytodd profile image91
        brittanytoddposted 7 years agoin reply to this

        YAY!  Thanks for posting!

        1. cloverleaffarm profile image77
          cloverleaffarmposted 7 years agoin reply to this

          That is what I get, when I go to the main page. I hope it is a good sign. smile

          1. Cardisa profile image91
            Cardisaposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            Clover, the site is still there, I am there right now. Maybe your browser is having a glitch.

            1. homesteadbound profile image84
              homesteadboundposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              cloverleaf - are you using firefox. I am and I have gotten that on the BigE page, but also hubpages and my email. It seems to be having problems the last couple days!

          2. No_Clue profile image62
            No_Clueposted 7 years agoin reply to this

            When you click on the link of an article on the home page, and it tells you the server can't find the link, look up at the address bar....the address is incomplete...I clicked on Butterflie Effect on Home Page 11...the address in the address bar came up .bigezine.com/butterflie-effect-149478.html...then I remembered that the addresses to all three of my pieces on there was in education.bigezine.com/........so I typed in education at the very beginning of the address and went right to the full on page. ..I was hopefull to....but NOT!

            1. No_Clue profile image62
              No_Clueposted 7 years agoin reply to this

              They are still at it but threw in a little hidden glitch to make us think otherwise, that's what it looks like to me anyway....sly DOGS!

  50. PhoenixV profile image64
    PhoenixVposted 7 years ago

    We can leave a review on the site at Alexa. Some people already have because their poetry is being stolen. I am not a poet, but poetry can be very personal and can you imagine your poetry being stolen and copy and pasted on some site like that?

    1. lorlie6 profile image83
      lorlie6posted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Ouch!  sad

    2. oceansnsunsets profile image85
      oceansnsunsetsposted 7 years agoin reply to this

      Excellent idea Phoenix!  That seems like a sure thing, as all sites want to do well there.  I noticed on the one graph, that it was going down.  If we all voted a one star, and left a comment, that would be amazingly helpful.

      You are right, about the people getting poetry stolen.  It is so brazen really, and for the people that got personal family photos stolen.

 
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